44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 7, 2021 10:00AM
- Dec/7/21 6:11:48 p.m.
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The hon. member for Cumberland—Colchester.
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- Dec/7/21 6:11:50 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, there are provisions in the bill that are about the redaction of important comments. Also, if members care so much, why was an election called? If they have such great emotional support, why do they not simply support this bill?
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- Dec/7/21 6:12:18 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I would like to extend a big thanks to all the military men and women here in Canada who put their lives at risk every day to protect us.
With respect to the Afghan mission and the people left behind, we are in a situation where many people are in desperate straits. However, there are a number of measures the government can take to address this issue.
I wonder whether the Conservatives would support a measure that calls for the government to ease the documentation requirements. As it stands right now, people cannot get their visas processed, for example, to get to safety. Would they support easing the measure with respect to the refugee determination requirements?
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- Dec/7/21 6:13:11 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I have only been here a short time, and the trust I have for the government to do anything quickly, expeditiously and in good faith is waning very quickly. I am saddened by that. We therefore believe we need to take the bull by the proverbial horns and get the job done ourselves.
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- Dec/7/21 6:13:39 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I want to single out another one of our veterans, Trevor Greene, who is enormously brave and was a hero throughout the Afghanistan conflict. He was originally born, as the member for Cumberland—Colchester was, in Sydney, Cape Breton, and moved to Vancouver Island. I am honoured to be his friend. He lives in Nanaimo.
Some members here will recall his name, because he was the soldier who took off his helmet out of respect for village elders and was attacked with an axe to the back of his head in 2006. He is enormously brave and was interviewed around the time the writ was dropped, on August 15, as the Taliban took over Afghanistan. He was enraged that we would be going into an election at that moment.
My question to the hon. member for Cumberland—Colchester is whether he is convinced that forming a new committee will get more Afghans to safety than working with the existing committee structure.
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- Dec/7/21 6:14:47 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I will keep it short. Yes.
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- Dec/7/21 6:15:02 p.m.
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It being 6:15 p.m., it is my duty to interrupt the proceedings and put forthwith every question necessary to dispose of the business of supply.
The question is on the amendment.
If a member of a recognized party present in the House wishes to request a recorded division or that the amendment be adopted on division, I would invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair.
The hon. member for Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman.
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- Dec/7/21 6:15:49 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, we request a recorded division.
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- Dec/7/21 6:15:55 p.m.
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Pursuant to order made on Thursday, November 25, the recorded division stands deferred until Wednesday, December 8 at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions.
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- Dec/7/21 6:18:25 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, on the basis of the discussion I just had with members of the official opposition, I suggest that if you were to canvass the House at this point in time, you would find unanimous consent to call it 6:30 p.m., with the understanding that we will wait for the appropriate minister to come before us.
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- Dec/7/21 6:20:32 p.m.
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Do we have unanimous consent of the House to see the clock at 6:30?
Some hon. members: Agreed.
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes): I just need a couple more minutes to make sure the House is set up. Because of COVID, it takes a little longer to set things up, so I apologize for the delay.
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- Dec/7/21 6:23:27 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, on a point of order, I think it is customary at moments like these to begin right away. I wonder if perhaps you might offer some clarification for the House as to the technical problems the clerks are trying to solve.
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- Dec/7/21 6:23:48 p.m.
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I am waiting for a piece of equipment that will help me to better judge the time. If members can give me a couple of minutes, we are hoping to get everything in order. This will not take away from the time allowed for the debate.
The hon. member for Elmwood—Transcona.
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- Dec/7/21 6:24:27 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, if the issue is keeping time, I am sure some of us would be very happy to lend our phones to the Chair so that you can begin keeping time. Some of us are quite anxious to start. We have been looking forward to this all day and are just trying to better understand the delay. Perhaps you might enlighten us as to the piece of equipment you require to begin the proceedings.
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- Dec/7/21 6:25:06 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, on the same point of order, we are ready, and as soon as you get the mechanism that you are waiting for, we can move forward. Hopefully that will appease the member for Elmwood—Transcona.
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- Dec/7/21 6:25:20 p.m.
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Today's debate is a general one on all votes tabled before the House on Friday, November 26, 2021. The first round will begin with the official opposition, followed by the government, the Bloc Québécois and the New Democratic Party. After that we will follow the usual proportional rotation.
Pursuant to order made on Thursday, November 25, each member will be allocated 15 minutes at a time, which may be used for both debate or for posing questions. Members wishing to use this time to make a speech have a maximum of 10 minutes, which leaves at least five minutes for questions to the minister. When a member is recognized, he or she should indicate to the Chair how the 15-minute period will be used, meaning how much time will be spent on the speech and how much time will be used for questions and answers.
Also, pursuant to order made earlier today, members who wish to share their time with another member shall indicate this to the Chair. When the time is to be used for questions and comments, the Chair will expect the minister's response to reflect approximately the time taken by the question, since this time will be counted in the time originally allotted to the members.
Pursuant to order made earlier today, the time provided for the debate tonight may be extended beyond four hours, as needed, to include a minimum of 16 periods of 15 minutes each.
I also wish to indicate that in committee of the whole, comments should be addressed to the Chair. I ask for everyone's co-operation in upholding all established standards of decorum, parliamentary language and behaviour.
We will now begin tonight's session.
The House in committee of the whole, pursuant to order made Thursday, November 25, 2021, consideration in committee of the whole of all votes in the supplementary estimates (B) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2022.
The hon. member for Wellington—Halton Hills.
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- Dec/7/21 6:25:20 p.m.
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At this point, we are ready to start.
Pursuant to order made Thursday, November 25, the House will now resolve itself into committee of the whole to study all votes in the supplementary estimate (B) for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2022.
I do now leave the chair for the House to go into committee of the whole.
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- Dec/7/21 6:28:42 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I will be splitting my time with the member for Calgary Forest Lawn.
My first question is on Afghanistan. Many Afghans are trying to flee the country. The state of Qatar has a unique and special relationship with the Taliban. Has the government had a démarche with the state of Qatar to request that it intervene with the Taliban to allow persecuted minorities and Afghans who assisted Canadian soldiers to leave the country?
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- Dec/7/21 6:29:14 p.m.
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Madam Chair, obviously we want to make sure that we are able to resettle 40,000 Afghan refugees. My deputy had the chance to go to the region, including to Qatar, Kuwait and Pakistan, to find ways to partner with these countries to resettle the 40,000 refugees I just mentioned.
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- Dec/7/21 6:29:39 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I have a question on Ukraine. Russia has amassed some 90,000 troops at the Ukraine border. Bloomberg News reported today that President Biden will call the leaders of France, Italy, the United Kingdom and Germany to talk about the situation in Ukraine. Bloomberg News also reports that the president is going to call Ukrainian President Zelenskyy.
Canada has troops in Ukraine under Operation Unifier. Has a call been scheduled between the Prime Minister and President Biden on this issue?
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