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House Hansard - 13

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 8, 2021 02:00PM
Context: House Hansard - 13 - Dec/8/21
Hon. Randy Boissonnault
  • Dec/8/21 9:18:53 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I was very clear. Some $500 million is going to the tourism relief fund.
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Mr. Bernard Généreux
  • Dec/8/21 9:18:59 p.m.
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Madam Chair, what I saw in the bill was $7 billion. I will ask another minister, one who has not said much yet this evening, the President of the Treasury Board, to tell us where the $7 billion is coming from to help everyone in the tourism and hospitality sectors.
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Hon. Randy Boissonnault
  • Dec/8/21 9:19:24 p.m.
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Madam Chair, it is very clear in our bill. We are here to help all the tourism sectors, the hotel industry, restaurants, all the sectors hit hardest by the pandemic. We encourage members on the other side to support the bill.
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Mr. Bernard Généreux
  • Dec/8/21 9:19:39 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I do not want to insist, but I must. The bill talks about $7 billion. The Minister of Tourism cannot say what the amount is, and the President of the Treasury Board cannot say where the money will come from. My colleague from Carleton asked the Standing Committee on Finance some questions and asked where the money would come from. We were told what it might be spent on, but no one told us where the money would come from.
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Hon. Randy Boissonnault
  • Dec/8/21 9:20:09 p.m.
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Madam Chair, the bill is intended to support hotels, motels, cottages, bed and breakfasts, youth hostels, restaurants, food trucks, tour operators, theatres and music venues.
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Mr. Bernard Généreux
  • Dec/8/21 9:20:28 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I forgot to say that I will be sharing my time with the hon. member for Richmond—Arthabaska. I will ask my question again. The government introduces bills to get them passed, but we are not told where the money will come from. I want to know if it is borrowed money or money in the bank. It is a very simple question.
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Hon. Randy Boissonnault
  • Dec/8/21 9:20:53 p.m.
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Madam Chair, that is why we are introducing bills. That will help gyms, sports centres, ski resorts, entertainment centres, youth summer camps and fishing camps. We are going to help people in those industries.
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Mr. Bernard Généreux
  • Dec/8/21 9:21:10 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I will try to be even more clear when I ask my question. The government is planning to spend $7 billion to help people in the tourism industry, all those the minister just listed. The President of the Treasury Board is unable to tell us where the money will come from. Where will that $7 billion for all those sectors come from?
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Hon. Mona Fortier (President of the Treasury Board, Lib.)
  • Dec/8/21 9:21:38 p.m.
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Madam Chair, since the 2021 budget was tabled, we have made a number of investments and we continue to invest in the sectors that are hardest hit, including tourism. We will continue to support the tourism industry.
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Mr. Bernard Généreux
  • Dec/8/21 9:21:53 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I am glad the President of the Treasury Board rose to answer me, but unfortunately she did not answer my question. My question is very simple: Where will the money come from?
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Hon. Randy Boissonnault
  • Dec/8/21 9:22:02 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I have a question for the members opposite: Are they going to support the tourism industry or do they want to see it die before the end of the pandemic?
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Mr. Bernard Généreux
  • Dec/8/21 9:22:10 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I am going to ask the minister a new question: Does he plan to split the bill in two to help the tourism sector as quickly as possible? This is a catch-all bill with all sorts of things thrown in, some of which the members on this side of the House see as necessary.
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Hon. Randy Boissonnault
  • Dec/8/21 9:22:25 p.m.
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Madam Chair, it is very clear. We presented a list of all of the sectors we will support by investing billions of dollars because these sectors asked us for help.
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Mr. Bernard Généreux
  • Dec/8/21 9:22:36 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I have a question for the Minister of Health, since he and I are almost seniors. I do not want to impute motive on him, but here we are. During the election campaign, the government promised to increase old age security. Can the minister tell us by what percentage the benefit will increase in 2022?
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Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos
  • Dec/8/21 9:23:01 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I am very happy to answer that question. I do not know exactly how old my colleague is, but he seems very young and in good shape. I wish him a long life filled with happiness and good health, although not necessarily with the Conservatives. He would be even happier if he were to come over to the Liberals. That is up to him. As for his question about seniors, there was a 25% reduction in poverty—
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The Deputy Chair
  • Dec/8/21 9:23:21 p.m.
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The hon. member has the floor.
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Mr. Bernard Généreux
  • Dec/8/21 9:23:22 p.m.
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Madam Chair, he did not answer my question. I do not get it. Every time I ask a question, no one can give me an answer, even when my questions are simple. I asked the minister by what percentage old age security benefits would increase in 2022. It is not a complicated question.
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Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos
  • Dec/8/21 9:23:37 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I doubt my colleague is getting the benefit since he is not old enough yet, but if he were old enough, he would have already received $500—
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The Deputy Chair
  • Dec/8/21 9:23:47 p.m.
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The hon. member.
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Mr. Bernard Généreux
  • Dec/8/21 9:23:49 p.m.
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Madam Chair, no, I am not quite there yet, but I will be soon. Once again, the minister is not answering the question. I was not talking about the $500 that the government gave out before the election, I was talking about the increase in old age security that the government promised during the election campaign.
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