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House Hansard - 77

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 30, 2022 11:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 77 - May/30/22
Mr. Rick Perkins (South Shore—St. Margarets, CPC)
  • May/30/22 8:11:27 p.m.
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Madam Chair, who makes the final decisions at DFO?
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Hon. Joyce Murray (Minister of Fisheries, Oceans and the Canadian Coast Guard, Lib.)
  • May/30/22 8:11:40 p.m.
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I make the decisions.
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Mr. Rick Perkins
  • May/30/22 8:11:46 p.m.
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Madam Chair, in January, at the FFAW, you said that your goal was to leave as many fish in the ocean as possible, and—
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The Deputy Chair
  • May/30/22 8:11:54 p.m.
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The hon. member has to address all questions to the Chair and not directly to the minister.
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Mr. Rick Perkins
  • May/30/22 8:11:59 p.m.
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Madam Chair, in January, the minister said at the FFAW that she would leave as many fish in the ocean as possible, that was her goal, and to grow as many plants as possible, and that fishermen could find another job. Could the minister please inform this House what job she was speaking of?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 8:12:18 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I think that is a complete misconstrual of what I said. What I have said is that my goal is grow the seafood and fish industry, and for that we need to have abundant stock.
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Mr. Rick Perkins
  • May/30/22 8:12:34 p.m.
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Madam Chair, DFO executive-level positions have increased 158%, rising from 65 to 173 during the time of this government. What could possibly justify that excessive growth?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 8:12:51 p.m.
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Madam Chair, this is a department that manages a great number and complexity of issues, as well as conflicts among different stakeholders, and I am very proud of the work that my officials and the leaders do in this department.
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Mr. Rick Perkins
  • May/30/22 8:13:08 p.m.
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Madam Chair, in 2019-20, the department met 56.3% of its goals and paid out $4.6 million in bonuses to its staff. That is 94.7% of the staff receiving a bonus for 56% performance. In 2020-21, the department met only 57% of its targets. Is that what this 158% growth of executives was done to manage?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 8:13:40 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I think the member is asking questions about previous years. I was appointed in 2021, and I have had excellent service from the leaders of the department.
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Mr. Rick Perkins
  • May/30/22 8:13:54 p.m.
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Madam Chair, in 2021 the achievement was 57% under this minister's leadership. Was that success?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 8:14:04 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I do find this line of questioning a bit rich, when the previous government cut the department's budget significantly.
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Mr. Rick Perkins
  • May/30/22 8:14:16 p.m.
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You are responsible for the department, not previous governments, minister—
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The Deputy Chair
  • May/30/22 8:14:20 p.m.
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The hon. member has to address all questions and comments through the Chair.
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Mr. Rick Perkins
  • May/30/22 8:14:24 p.m.
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Madam Chair, under the current government, the science budget for the fisheries side of DFO, which is the side that deals with stock management, has declined by 3%, while the environmental ocean side has seen its science budget increase by 65% Is this why 80% of stocks in the critical zone do not have a recovery plan?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 8:14:45 p.m.
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Madam Chair, we are working on recovery plans for all stocks under the precautionary principle, and the department is committed to restoring the abundance, viability and diversity of stocks so that we can have a strong fish and seafood industry.
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Mr. Rick Perkins
  • May/30/22 8:15:05 p.m.
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Madam Chair, 80% without a plan is not a strong performance. Is the minister going to cut the southwest Nova Scotia herring quota by 63%?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 8:15:14 p.m.
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Madam Chair, we have not made decisions on the stock mentioned by the member. When I have the science and we can—
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The Deputy Chair
  • May/30/22 8:15:24 p.m.
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The hon. member for South Shore—St. Margarets.
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Mr. Rick Perkins
  • May/30/22 8:15:26 p.m.
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Madam Chair, when will this announcement be made? The season is about to start.
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