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House Hansard - 77

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 30, 2022 11:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 77 - May/31/22
Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/31/22 12:02:40 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, one of the key pillars of the PSSI is collaboration. On the one hand we are being told we are not moving quickly enough, but on the other hand we are very committed to collaborating with indigenous communities and others, and that work is ongoing.
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Mr. Gord Johns
  • May/31/22 12:03:05 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, how will the minister ensure that the PSSI Pacific salmon commercial licence retirement program supports coastal communities and owner-operator fishers, avoids further corporate consolidation of the fishing fleet and holds industry participants responsible for supporting sustainable harvest transformation?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/31/22 12:03:26 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, harvest transformation is one of the key pillars of the Pacific salmon initiative. That means we will be consulting. We will be working with harvesters and working with industry, again on a “willing buyer, willing seller” basis.
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Mr. Gord Johns
  • May/31/22 12:03:45 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, the installation of intensive subtidal geoduck aquaculture is proposed for the herring spawning grounds in Lambert Channel which, according to Department of Fisheries and Oceans records, are the source of 38% of all the herring spawn that has ever occurred on the B.C. coast and would support the whole Strait of Georgia marine ecosystem. Will the minister put the protection of the spawning habitat of this keystone species ahead of the installation of industrial aquaculture and save it from the inevitable cumulative damage that would follow?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/31/22 12:04:21 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, I am interested in more details on the specific facility that the member is referring to, but I want to say that conservation is our bottom line. It is our top priority.
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Mr. Gord Johns
  • May/31/22 12:04:39 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, will the minister commit to taking a whole-of-ecosystem management-based approach? She has heard me talk about this endlessly, because we see harvests of some species impacting other species. Will she gear her department to take a whole-of-ecosystem management approach, especially with the blue economy?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/31/22 12:04:58 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, that certainly is our approach and that is something that we will be deepening.
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Mr. Gord Johns
  • May/31/22 12:05:11 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, does the minister support owner-operator?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/31/22 12:05:15 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, yes I do.
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Mr. Gord Johns
  • May/31/22 12:05:20 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, if so, is its compliance being monitored?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/31/22 12:05:24 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, yes it is.
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Mr. Gord Johns
  • May/31/22 12:05:29 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, will the minister tell us how many cases are under review then of those that are in violation?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/31/22 12:05:39 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, we will get a number for the member.
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Mr. Gord Johns
  • May/31/22 12:05:45 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, when will the minister share what information will be public? She says she will get that to me. When will she get that to me?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/31/22 12:05:59 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, I will consult with my officials and we will give the member a time when we can deliver it.
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Mr. Gord Johns
  • May/31/22 12:06:07 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, does the minister intend to include owner-operators in the blue economy strategy?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/31/22 12:06:14 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, it will be a very comprehensive strategy and I would be very surprised if it were not included.
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Mr. Gord Johns
  • May/31/22 12:06:23 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, that is not a commitment. I am hoping the minister can commit to that. In terms of reconciliation, how long does the department intend to exclusively continue using the fishery to satisfy treaty rights?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/31/22 12:06:37 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, I missed some of the words the member said.
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Mr. Gord Johns
  • May/31/22 12:06:42 a.m.
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Mr. Chair, how long does the department intend to exclusively continue to use the fisheries to satisfy treaty rights? I have spoken to the minister repeatedly, asking her to ask the minister of CIRNAC to supply funds for reconciliation so that reconciliation does not fall on the backs of a small group of fishers and it is shared by all Canadians. Maybe she can speak to that. We have talked about it in relation to the west coast crab fishers. Maybe she can talk about whether she has had this conversation with the minister of CIRNAC.
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