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House Hansard - 84

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
June 8, 2022 02:00PM
Context: House Hansard - 84 - Jun/8/22
Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie (Joliette, BQ)
  • Jun/8/22 9:59:20 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-19 
Madam Speaker, I would like to thank my colleague for his speech, which did not have the slightest connection to Bill C-19. I know that when a point of order is raised to have the Chair ask members of the House to ensure their speeches are on topic, it is always interpreted very broadly. In this case, however, my colleague's speech had absolutely nothing to do with Bill C‑19. First the government introduces a special motion forcing us to sit until midnight every night, at its whim, under time allocation. The normal process of debate in the House is not being followed. Now the government is sending in Liberal members who, as interesting as their speeches are, are more or less filibustering on Bill C‑19. My question for him is—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Jun/8/22 10:00:18 p.m.
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I am sorry, but I must leave time for a response. The hon. member for Nepean.
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Mr. Chandra Arya
  • Jun/8/22 10:00:23 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-19 
Madam Speaker, if the hon. member had read the budget, he would know that there is an entire chapter on this. Not only has $8 billion been invested on the basis of the policy that was published in 2017, but I can go on to read what the government has announced in investments. The government has provided $875 million to address the cyber-threat landscape, based on Canada's first comprehensive cybersecurity strategy. On misinformation and disinformation, the government has provided $13.4 million for the G7 rapid response mechanism. The government has provided $10 million for the Privy Council Office to coordinate, develop, and implement government-wide measures designed to combat disinformation and protect our democracy. The government has also provided $385 million for IRCC and CSIS, plus the—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Jun/8/22 10:01:19 p.m.
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We have to proceed with questions and comments. The hon. member for Calgary Forest Lawn.
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Mr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Calgary Forest Lawn, CPC)
  • Jun/8/22 10:01:28 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-19 
Madam Speaker, although I appreciate that the member gave a lot of anecdotes of what Canada should be doing and could be doing, I was wondering if the hon. member would commit to getting whichever ministry he thinks is responsible for that long speech to get to work on the work he just said Canada should be doing. If he is okay with that, can he please tell us which minister he will approach and when he thinks this will take place?
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Mr. Chandra Arya
  • Jun/8/22 10:02:00 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-19 
Madam Speaker, in fact, that is the entire big mistake, what the member is doing. It is not the responsibility of one minister; it is a whole-of-government approach. If he had listened to what I was saying, he would know I said that we need a coordinated, comprehensive policy to tackle the new threats Canada is facing, which were not there five or 10 years back.
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Mr. Simon-Pierre Savard-Tremblay (Saint-Hyacinthe—Bagot, BQ)
  • Jun/8/22 10:02:26 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-19 
Madam Speaker, to pick up on what my colleague from Joliette was saying, there was indeed not much of a connection between our colleague's statement and the subject at hand, which has me wondering if he is tacitly acknowledging that there is nothing in the budget.
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Mr. Chandra Arya
  • Jun/8/22 10:02:48 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-19 
Madam Speaker, absolutely, if the member had taken some time to read the budget, there is a whole chapter on this. As I mentioned, there are many investments on many different levels that deal with the defence of our country and the security aspects of our country. Every single one of these things has been derived from the budget.
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Mrs. Sherry Romanado (Longueuil—Charles-LeMoyne, Lib.)
  • Jun/8/22 10:03:07 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-19 
Madam Speaker, I just want to respond to the previous comments that were made by my colleagues across the way. I take a lot of offence at the fact that they were stating there was nothing in the budget with respect to cybersecurity and nothing in the budget with respect to defence, which my colleague spent 20 minutes highlighting. I sat on the national defence committee during the first mandate, and I know full well exactly what the threats facing Canada are today. The fact is that we had to look at “Strong, Secure, Engaged” and shift and pivot, given the new realities. That is what the member just mentioned, and he spent 20 minutes highlighting the new realities here, so I find it quite offensive that people are accusing the member of not discussing what is actually in the budget, on page 136.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Jun/8/22 10:04:02 p.m.
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The member for Joliette on a point of order.
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Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie
  • Jun/8/22 10:04:09 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-19 
Madam Speaker, I would like to remind the House that we are talking about Bill C‑19, the budget implementation bill, not the budget itself. Not everything in that speech is in Bill C‑19. My colleague may take offence, but that speech had no connection to Bill C‑19.
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Mr. Chandra Arya
  • Jun/8/22 10:04:32 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-19 
Madam Speaker, I completely agree with my colleague, and everything I talked about is part of Bill C-19.
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Mr. Dan Albas (Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, CPC)
  • Jun/8/22 10:04:49 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-19 
Madam Speaker, maybe the member could clarify and clear the air. Did he write that speech, or did he literally just take sections of chapter 5 out of the budget? I would just like to know.
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Mr. Chandra Arya
  • Jun/8/22 10:05:01 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-19 
Madam Speaker, I take offence at the remark asking whether I wrote the speech. In fact, I spent quite a number of hours today preparing for the speech and have read so many documents, including the recent document on national security that was published by the University of Ottawa and the major leading experts on security and defence of our country. I completely take offence at these comments.
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Mr. Sébastien Lemire (Abitibi—Témiscamingue, BQ)
  • Jun/8/22 10:05:38 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-19 
Madam Speaker, I listened to my colleague from Nepean's speech in hopes of finding some connection with Bill C‑19. Beyond that, I also picked up on some criticism, constructive criticism, about his government's proposals relating to things that had kind of been forgotten. That is why I want to ask him if he plans to support Bill C‑19.
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Mr. Chandra Arya
  • Jun/8/22 10:05:58 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-19 
Madam Speaker, I have a simple answer. I do support Bill C-19.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.)
  • Jun/8/22 10:06:06 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-19 
Madam Speaker, I did enjoy the member's comments, and I wanted to ask him something a bit different. When we take a look at the budget implementation bill, one of the things we talk a great deal about is the ways in which we are supporting Canadians, and the national child care program is something that is universally very well received. The only political entity in Canada that is actually in opposition to it is the Conservative Party of Canada. We have Progressive Conservative provincial parties that are supporting it. I am wondering if the member could just provide his thoughts as to why this is an important program for our children and parents across Canada.
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Mr. Chandra Arya
  • Jun/8/22 10:06:54 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-19 
Madam Speaker, that is a very important question. The child care policy across Canada is very important because it equalizes everybody from coast to coast to coast. We have signed agreements with every single political party, from the Progressive Conservatives in Ontario to the Liberals in Atlantic Canada to the Conservative government in the west to the NDP government in B.C. Every provincial government has joined. That will give much-needed support to middle-class families who are burdened with the very high cost of child care. Child care at $10 a day is a boon to most middle-class families.
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Mr. Bernard Généreux (Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, CPC)
  • Jun/8/22 10:07:51 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-19 
Madam Speaker, I will be sharing my time with my colleague from Niagara Falls. Niagara is a beautiful spot in Canada, but not as beautiful as Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup. I am very pleased to rise in the House this evening to share my thoughts on Bill C-19, an act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on April 7, 2022 and other measures. The first thing that came to mind when I read the budget was the phrase “out of touch”, because I was really upset to see how out of touch the government and the Prime Minister were with the reality of Canadians and their daily concerns. Inflation is at its highest in 30 years. Absolutely everything costs more. The price of gas has skyrocketed. In my riding, the price per litre of regular gas is around $2.03 right now. The price of food has climbed by 9.8% since last year, and house prices have doubled since the Prime Minister came to power. All these increases have a direct impact on ordinary Canadians, but the government is doing absolutely nothing to help. We pored over the budget, but we did not find anything that would help families cope with these three key issues. The government is just as out of touch with two important sectors of our economy that are especially important to me and that are being hit hard right now: the agri-food chain, which is severely affected by inflation, and the tourism industry, which suffered tremendously during the pandemic. The budget offers only a few crumbs for these two sectors. Madam Speaker, there is so much noise I cannot hear myself speak.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Jun/8/22 10:09:58 p.m.
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The hon. member is quite correct. He has a lot of difficulty understanding and so do I in hearing what the member is saying. I am asking members to respect the fact that he has the floor.
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