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House Hansard - 92

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
June 20, 2022 11:00AM
  • Jun/20/22 6:19:24 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-11 
Madam Speaker, it is interesting to be interrupted with a quorum call. Many people working throughout the day often go to the MP lobby to get something to eat. I suspect we will find that on all sides of the House. It does not mean there is a lack of interest in what is taking place. The lobby is just through the door. I want to pick up on the point that things have changed. Back in the nineties, the Internet started to speed up in a very significant way. There was nothing called Netflix when I was first elected. When we look at the speed that is required to have the type of streaming we have today, it was not even being imagined by most people back then. That was the time we last saw the modernization of Canada's Broadcasting Act. Most Canadians understand and appreciate why it is important to have the CRTC, for example. Based on some of the arguments put forward by the Conservatives today, I am beginning to think they would get rid of the CRTC if they were put in government. That is just based on some of the comments they have put on the record. However, if we reflect on the important role that the CRTC has played in Canadian society, it is really—
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  • Jun/20/22 6:21:09 p.m.
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There is another point of order by the hon. member for Fort McMurray—Cold Lake.
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  • Jun/20/22 6:21:19 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-11 
I will check on quorum one more time. And the count having been taken: The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes): There are more than enough members for quorum at the moment. I will return to the hon. parliamentary secretary to the government House leader.
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  • Jun/20/22 6:22:05 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-11 
Madam Speaker, the games continue to be played. At the end of the day, I can assure everyone that there is a keen interest in this, at least on behalf of three political entities in the chamber. Members of the Liberal Party, the Bloc, the NDP and the Green Party recognize the true value of the passage of Bill C-11. It is only members of the Conservative Party of Canada who seem to want to bury their heads in the sand, not realizing that as time passes, technology changes. The advancement of the Internet has dictated the need for us to bring forward legislation of this nature. We are bringing forward this legislation to ensure there is a level playing field. Unlike the Conservative Party of Canada, we care about an industry that provides billions of dollars to our economy and provides opportunities to creators, actors and so many other people from coast to coast to coast. It is only the Conservative Party of Canada that does not realize the true value of Bill C-11. Instead, what we get a sense of with the new Conservative Party is a hard right turn. If we look at the member for Carleton and some of the things he has been talking about—
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  • Jun/20/22 6:23:29 p.m.
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We have a point of order by the hon. member for Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon.
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  • Jun/20/22 6:23:35 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-11 
Madam Speaker, I have risen on this point of order on more than one occasion already in response to the member for Winnipeg North. Categorizing the Conservative Party as a hard-right political party is not parliamentary language and insinuates that my party is hateful. I kindly ask that the member take back that comment and continue his debate in good faith.
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  • Jun/20/22 6:24:06 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-11 
That is more a point of debate. However, I would ask parliamentarians who participate in debate to be mindful of how they categorize individuals. Generally, for parties, it is a bit different, but we still want to make sure we do not walk that fine line. The hon. parliamentary secretary to the government House leader.
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  • Jun/20/22 6:24:31 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-11 
Madam Speaker, to be a bit more sensitive to the member opposite, we have this hard reform element within the Conservative Party. Many of them are Reformers, and that is pretty far to the right. We saw that today. If we listen to and read some of the things the member for Banff—Airdrie put on the record today, it is almost as if the Conservatives get a gold star in the back room if they mention the word “freedom”. If they say the word “freedom”, it is a good thing. It is interesting that just before question period got— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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  • Jun/20/22 6:25:11 p.m.
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There have been a lot of individuals thinking out loud or wanting to participate while the hon. parliamentary secretary has the floor. I want to remind those members that there will be a 10-minute question and comment period, so if they could hold off until then, that would be greatly appreciated. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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  • Jun/20/22 6:25:32 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-11 
Madam Speaker, the point is that we are getting a mentality that is overcoming the Conservative element of the party today, something which—
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  • Jun/20/22 6:25:50 p.m.
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We have a point of order from the hon. member for Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies.
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  • Jun/20/22 6:25:56 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-11 
Madam Speaker, my point of order is about using phraseology in this place that is parliamentary. Only a Liberal would find the word “freedom” offensive. It is unreal.
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  • Jun/20/22 6:26:08 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-11 
Again, that is a point of debate. I would ask members to make sure their points of order are actual points of order, because this takes away time from the hon. member for Fort McMurray—Cold Lake and other speakers. The hon. parliamentary secretary has 14 minutes. Then there will be 10 minutes of questions and comments.
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  • Jun/20/22 6:26:28 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-11 
Madam Speaker, I believe I should get a bonus two minutes because of the number of interruptions I have had. The member made reference to the word “freedom”. At the end of the day, the Liberal Party of Canada does not need any lesson from the Conservatives with regard to individual rights and freedoms. After all, we are the party that brought in the Charter of Rights. We are a party of the charter. We understand what freedoms are all about. As for the Conservatives, on the other hand, I would again remind them to look at some of the things their colleagues put on the record today with regard to Bill C-11, as if it is some sort of an assault on the freedoms of Canadians. The parliamentary secretary, in introducing it and speaking to it earlier today as the first speaker from the Liberal side, emphasized a couple of points about what the bill is not. It does not regulate the Internet. The bill—
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  • Jun/20/22 6:27:39 p.m.
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We have another point of order from the member for Fort McMurray—Cold Lake.
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  • Jun/20/22 6:27:43 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-11 
Madam Speaker, I would like you to check online again, as I believe we continue to have an issue when it comes to quorum, and also confirm whether someone having their camera on but not being visible in the shot actually constitutes quorum. I believe that has already been ruled on.
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  • Jun/20/22 6:28:05 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-11 
I thank the member. It is an issue for all parliamentarians. It is something they do on a regular basis. They may turn their camera off for a bit and then turn it back on. When I am looking at the screen here, I just see that they are on. I would have to double-check to make sure if their cameras are on or off. And the count having been taken: The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes): Right now we have quorum just in the House. The hon. member for Elmwood—Transcona is rising on a point of order.
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  • Jun/20/22 6:28:47 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-11 
Madam Speaker, I am wondering if the Conservative members are looking beyond their own benches when they call quorum or if they are looking at the House as a whole.
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  • Jun/20/22 6:28:56 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-11 
When we call quorum, we look at the House as a whole. The hon. parliamentary secretary to the government House leader.
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