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House Hansard - 107

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
October 4, 2022 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 107 - Oct/4/22
Mr. Luc Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable, CPC)
  • Oct/4/22 2:33:02 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, unlike the Prime Minister, the Leader of the Opposition puts Canadians first. Since his resounding victory, the Conservative leader has been the voice of millions of Canadians, calling on the government to end the unjust inflation. Day after day, he asks the costly coalition to show some compassion for workers, fathers and mothers and cancel the planned tax increase, which will make life more expensive for everyone. The opposition leader is reaching out. Will the Prime Minister listen to him and scrap his plan to raise taxes?
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Hon. Karina Gould (Minister of Families, Children and Social Development, Lib.)
  • Oct/4/22 2:33:43 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, let us lay the facts on the table. The first thing that our government did in 2015 was lower taxes for the majority of Canadians. What did the Conservatives do? They voted against that tax cut. On this side, we will continue to respond to Canadians' expectations. The Conservatives can say what they like, but we will let our actions speak for themselves.
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Mr. Luc Berthold (Mégantic—L'Érable, CPC)
  • Oct/4/22 2:34:14 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the only promises Liberals keep are the ones that empty the pockets of all Canadians. Yesterday, the Minister of the Environment said that Quebec would be spared from the decision to triple the carbon tax for Canadians next year. Can the Prime Minister confirm that Quebeckers will be completely spared the carbon tax hike, that no Quebecker will pay more taxes and that no one will be burdened by an increase in the costs of their purchases? Will the carbon tax be more expensive for Quebeckers, yes or no?
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Hon. Steven Guilbeault (Minister of Environment and Climate Change, Lib.)
  • Oct/4/22 2:34:49 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I thank my hon. colleague for his question. Sadly, he does not understand carbon pricing in Canada and Quebec. Quebec does not have carbon pricing, but rather a cap-and-trade system. It is a little complicated, I know. I will be happy to explain the difference to him. My office could organize a briefing if my hon. colleague so wishes.
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Ms. Raquel Dancho (Kildonan—St. Paul, CPC)
  • Oct/4/22 2:35:19 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, 51% of Canadians are struggling to afford food. That is over half the country. Seven years of the Liberal government and that is its record, yet the Liberals have the audacity to sit there and roll their eyes at us as we ask questions about their lack of action on inflation. Now they are going to raise taxes on Canadians by tripling the carbon tax on groceries, tripling it on home heating and tripling it on gas. It is triple, triple, triple. Canadians cannot afford the Liberal government any longer. Will the Liberals show some compassion and cancel their plans to triple the carbon tax?
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Hon. Steven Guilbeault (Minister of Environment and Climate Change, Lib.)
  • Oct/4/22 2:36:01 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, in university I took social sciences and did some math, calculus 101. It is actually called 103 in Quebec. Three times three times three equals 27, so I am not sure what the Conservatives are talking about. Imagine if they had to do a budget for the entire country. Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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The Speaker
  • Oct/4/22 2:36:23 p.m.
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I am having a hard time hearing the answer. I am going to have to ask the minister to start from the top.
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Hon. Steven Guilbeault
  • Oct/4/22 2:36:35 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, as I was saying, I took social sciences in university and some math, calculus 101, and three times three times three is 27. The Conservatives cannot even get this right. Imagine if they were trying to do a federal budget for the entire country. The carbon tax would go up by $15. How they get to three times three times three I simply do not understand.
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Mrs. Tracy Gray (Kelowna—Lake Country, CPC)
  • Oct/4/22 2:37:07 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, Jay told me he had to cancel a family trip to see family because of the high cost of gas. Inflation and carbon tax increases are keeping families apart this Thanksgiving, but changing behaviour is exactly what the Liberals want. They have said it. They continue to pretend that failed climate change plans are anything but another tax grab. Will the Liberal government cancel its plans to force British Columbia to triple taxes on gas, groceries and home heating?
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Hon. Steven Guilbeault (Minister of Environment and Climate Change, Lib.)
  • Oct/4/22 2:37:51 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I want to reassure my hon. colleague that we are having a very cordial and productive conversation with British Columbia about putting a price on pollution. In fact, British Columbia is one of the first jurisdictions in North America to have done this. We will continue working collaboratively with B.C. on carbon pricing.
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Mr. Ben Lobb (Huron—Bruce, CPC)
  • Oct/4/22 2:38:13 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, because of the Liberal government's failed economic policies, the Canadian dream of owning a home, putting kids in sports and taking a modest family vacation is impossible. At a time when Canadians need some help, what do the Liberals do? They triple the carbon tax. Will the Liberals cancel their plans to triple the tax on gas, groceries and home heating and give hard-working Canadian families some hope?
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, Lib.)
  • Oct/4/22 2:38:50 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the good news is that we do have a plan, and all of us, working together this week, are going to be able to give hard-working Canadian families some real hope and some real support. That is because I am very hopeful that this week the House will vote on third reading of Bill C-30. That is the GST rebate that would give nearly $500 to Canadian families. Eleven million households would be helped. That is real hope. That is real support for Canadian families. I am glad the Conservatives are on board with that. I hope now they will support the housing payments and dental care.
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Mr. Fraser Tolmie (Moose Jaw—Lake Centre—Lanigan, CPC)
  • Oct/4/22 2:40:19 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, a veteran in my riding noticed that GST was being charged on top of the carbon tax on his power bill. The Liberal government plans to triple the carbon tax. Guess what. This would also triple the GST on a basic necessity. Life is getting too expensive for Canadians. When will the government scrap its plans to triple the carbon tax, and axe the tax on the carbon tax? Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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The Speaker
  • Oct/4/22 2:40:54 p.m.
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Order. Listen to the whip. He is wonderful. The hon. government House leader.
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Hon. Mark Holland (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.)
  • Oct/4/22 2:41:19 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, around the world we are facing very difficult times. The member references a veteran whom I have no doubt is experiencing the global phenomenon that we are all dealing with. Some hon. members: Oh, oh! Hon. Mark Holland: This is not a sporting event. This is not an opportunity to yell and scream and hoot and holler. It is an opportunity to help people who are in need. I absolutely want to take these questions.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/4/22 2:41:52 p.m.
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I missed half of that. The government House leader, from the top, please.
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Hon. Mark Holland
  • Oct/4/22 2:42:03 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we are ready to hear real questions. We are ready to give real answers.
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Mr. Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe (Lac-Saint-Jean, BQ)
  • Oct/4/22 2:42:21 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, every time we ask about federal action for Roxham Road, the government answers that it is negotiating the modernization of the safe third country agreement with the U.S. Roxham Road has been an issue for five years. The federal government has been negotiating for years. It was even in the Liberals' 2019 election platform. At this point, we have every right to ask how the negotiations are going, do we not? Can the government provide us with the dates of every meeting held to discuss the safe third country agreement with Washington, and will it provide the minutes of those meetings?
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Mrs. Marie-France Lalonde (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship, Lib.)
  • Oct/4/22 2:42:52 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, let us be clear. Closing Roxham Road or suspending the agreement is not a solution. That would not solve the problem. As the member opposite knows, Canada shares the longest demilitarized border in the country. Roxham Road gives officials an opportunity to obtain identification documents from these asylum claimants and prevent dangerous crossings. We need to modernize the agreement, and that is what we are doing.
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Mr. Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe (Lac-Saint-Jean, BQ)
  • Oct/4/22 2:43:28 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, so everything is as it should be at Roxham Road. That is what they just said. Does is seem as though negotiations are moving forward? I do not think so. The safe third country agreement is a seven-page document, not a free trade agreement. The Liberals have been telling us for five years that they are in negotiations. Meanwhile, what is obvious on the ground is that they are making Roxham Road permanent. We have just been told flat out. They even plan to open new facilities on November 1. Permanent means permanent. Can the minister provide us with any concrete evidence of these discussions, or should we rely on the government's actions and therefore conclude that no negotiations are actually taking place?
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