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House Hansard - 112

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
October 18, 2022 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 112 - Oct/18/22
Hon. Jonathan Wilkinson (Minister of Natural Resources, Lib.)
  • Oct/18/22 3:10:00 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I will underline the fact that I was in Calgary just a couple of weeks ago meeting with the Alberta federation and a number of the unions in Alberta talking about exactly these issues. I would say there was an enormous amount of agreement about the need to develop an economy that is going to be strong and that will create jobs and economic opportunities. We are working very directly with labour in Alberta. We are working very directly with some of the member's colleagues, whom she may want to talk to about that, to ensure that we are moving forward in the right way.
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Mr. Alexandre Boulerice (Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, NDP)
  • Oct/18/22 3:10:32 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, obviously there is no plan at all. We learned that the Liberals spent $28 million to lease land near Roxham Road and they did so secretly. Instead of suspending the safe third country agreement to streamline the process for refugees, the Liberals chose to funnel millions of dollars of public money to a Liberal donor without a call for tenders. For a Liberal, a crony is always a crony. When will the Liberals suspend the safe third country agreement as the NDP has been calling for?
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Mrs. Marie-France Lalonde (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship, Lib.)
  • Oct/18/22 3:11:18 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the rental agreements were negotiated based on fair market value to arrive at a competitive price. Given the location of the land and its proximity to the border, this was an ideal location for CBSA. Our government is delivering open, fair and transparent procurement processes, while obtaining the best value for Canadians.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/18/22 3:11:51 p.m.
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I wish to draw the attention of hon. members to the presence in the gallery of Hon. Natalie Jameson, Minister of Education and Lifelong Learning and Minister responsible for the Status of Women for the Province of Prince Edward Island. Some hon. members: Hear, hear!
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The Speaker
  • Oct/18/22 3:12:24 p.m.
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It being 3:12 p.m., pursuant to order made on Thursday, June 23, the House will now proceed to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion at second reading stage of Bill C‑22. Call in the members.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/18/22 3:26:37 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-22 
I declare the motion carried. Accordingly, the bill stands referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/18/22 3:26:49 p.m.
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Pursuant to the order made on Thursday, June 23, the House will now proceed to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion to concur in the fifth report of the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/18/22 3:39:35 p.m.
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I declare the motion carried.
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Hon. Mark Holland (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.)
  • Oct/18/22 3:39:39 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-31 
Mr. Speaker, in relation to the consideration of Government Business No. 20, I move: That debate be not further adjourned.
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The Speaker
  • Oct/18/22 3:40:59 p.m.
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The hon. Minister of Indigenous Services is rising on a point of order.
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Hon. Patty Hajdu
  • Oct/18/22 3:41:10 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-31 
Mr. Speaker, I just wanted to express my disappointment at hearing members of the opposition, in particular the Conservatives, asking our Deputy Prime Minister to smile a little more. This is recognized as a known sexist remark. I would just say that—
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The Speaker
  • Oct/18/22 3:41:28 p.m.
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I am afraid that this is more of a point of debate and not a point of order. However, I do want to remind both sides that when someone is answering or talking, as I am, to listen and to respect each other. We will now return to the motion that was put forward. Pursuant to Standing Order 67.1, there will now be a 30-minute question period. I invite hon. members who wish to ask questions to rise in their places or use the “raise hand” function so the Chair has some idea of the number of members who wish to participate in this question period. The hon. member for Sarnia—Lambton.
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Ms. Marilyn Gladu (Sarnia—Lambton, CPC)
  • Oct/18/22 3:43:15 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-31 
Mr. Speaker, here we are again. The Liberal government, which promised Canadians that it would not shut down debate, is doing it again. It is shameful. These are important measures to get right. There are concerns that have been expressed on this motion, as well as the bill that it pertains to, and the government is not listening. I am very disappointed to see, once again, a lack of transparency and Liberals not keeping their promises, which is what we have come to expect from this government.
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Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos (Minister of Health, Lib.)
  • Oct/18/22 3:43:52 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-31 
Mr. Speaker, I am so glad and grateful to be able to answer this question and to agree with the member that this is a very important bill. We should move forward because, as we all know, the next occasion is going to give us more time and a better place to study the bill clause by clause and to look at it carefully to make sure that it serves the needs of Canadians on dental care and rental support.
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Mr. Gord Johns (Courtenay—Alberni, NDP)
  • Oct/18/22 3:44:27 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-31 
Mr. Speaker, I find it mighty rich that Conservatives are using all of their stalling tactics to prevent children from getting dental care, while MPs in the House get dental care, Conservative MPs. I find it extremely disturbing and shameful that they are doing this. We need to move forward with this so that children get help so that they can deal with their dental work.
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Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos
  • Oct/18/22 3:44:54 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-31 
Mr. Speaker, the member is correct. As we do this, we are going to save probably around $2 billion in emergency services in current dental work not having to be given. A lot of Canadians, and low-income Canadians in particular, do not have access to dental care because of affordability, and $2 billion in hospitalization costs could be prevented with better dental care for children and low-income families.
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Mr. Alain Therrien (La Prairie, BQ)
  • Oct/18/22 3:45:30 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-31 
This is another slap in the face of parliamentarism, Mr. Speaker. It is a two-handed slap, one hand being Liberal and the other New Democrat. Again, it seems as though we are in a bad movie. Bill C‑31 is ill-conceived. We should have worked on this bill because it was scribbled on the back of a napkin. Then, we can see there is a desire to expedite debate. There is talk of dental insurance, but there is no clear indication in the bill that it was dental insurance, quite the contrary. What we are seeing now is a government that drafted bad legislation because it was in a too big a hurry to consummate its marriage to the NDP to really put any work into it. My question is simple. Is the minister embarrassed to introduce this closure motion?
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Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos
  • Oct/18/22 3:46:21 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-31 
Madam Speaker, I congratulate my colleague for wanting to take a closer look at the bill. That is exactly what we can do if we vote for the motion today. We can go to committee and take the time needed to listen to experts to see how taking care of our children's dental health means taking care of their health in general. It avoids them having to go to the hospital for emergency surgery that would not be needed if they had access to quality preventive dental care. It is for all children who need it in Quebec and elsewhere.
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Mr. Mark Gerretsen (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons (Senate), Lib.)
  • Oct/18/22 3:46:55 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-31 
Madam Speaker, I found it very ironic that the new shadow minister for civil liberties just tried to lecture this side of the House on not allowing the democratic process to take place when only hours ago, the member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan moved a concurrence motion in order to stall for time in the House. It is a tactic that we have seen year after year being played by the Conservatives to affect the agenda from moving forward. Now, once again, they are trying to do it on an issue that is as important as dental care for children under 14 years of age, who otherwise might not be able to afford it. Could the minister comment as to whether he is equally frustrated as I am with respect to the fact that, on an issue that should enjoy the support of all members of the House, we seem to be seeing more Conservative tactics and delays?
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Hon. Jean-Yves Duclos
  • Oct/18/22 3:47:53 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-31 
Madam Speaker, we obviously all feel the urgency of moving forward. December 1 is coming. This is when we would like children of low and middle-income families to benefit from better dental care. By the way, about a third of all surgeries under anaesthesia for children between the ages of one and five are because children do not have access to proper dental care before they end up in emergency surgery. We know we can do better, and with the assistance of all members of the House, we know we will do better.
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