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House Hansard - 140

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 2, 2022 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 140 - Dec/2/22
Hon. Gudie Hutchings (Minister of Rural Economic Development, Lib.)
  • Dec/2/22 11:45:13 a.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Madam Speaker, I have been a hunter and fisher all my life. I have great memories of hunting with my dad and I wish he were here now, because he would support me 100%. My friends and I have looked at the amendments to Bill C-21. We agree. Every time a firearm kills an innocent person, that hurts a law-abiding gun owner. My friends support Bill C-21. We all have to do our part to get assault-style weapons off this planet.
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Mr. Doug Shipley (Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, CPC)
  • Dec/2/22 11:45:46 a.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Madam Speaker, let us talk about some facts. Just yesterday in the public safety committee, the Liberal government's own firearms expert who helped write Bill C-21 admitted on record that hunting rifles would be banned if this law is enacted. Will the Liberals admit they have made a mistake, admit these amendments are affecting law-abiding hunters and farmers, and cancel Bill C-21?
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Hon. Marco Mendicino (Minister of Public Safety, Lib.)
  • Dec/2/22 11:46:13 a.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Madam Speaker, in fact the expert my colleague is referring to refuted many of the misnomers and the inaccuracies the Conservatives continue to perpetuate. More to the point, we have a plan to eradicate gun violence once and for all. That includes investments at our borders to support CBSA. The Conservatives voted against. That includes addressing gun crime at its root causes. We invested $250 million. The Conservatives voted against. It also includes common-sense laws like Bill C-21, so that we can get those guns that have no place in our communities off our streets once and for all.
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Mr. Charlie Angus (Timmins—James Bay, NDP)
  • Dec/2/22 11:46:49 a.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Madam Speaker, we need to keep our communities safe from handgun violence, and the government promised to do that. However, at the 11th hour, the government slipped an amendment into Bill C-21 that is not about dealing with handguns. Instead, the government is now targeting rifles and shotguns with detachable clips. This is a huge overreach that would impact rural, northern and indigenous people, and the government needs to fix this. Will the Attorney General ensure that this legislation on handguns is not going to target legitimate hunters and rural people?
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Hon. Marco Mendicino (Minister of Public Safety, Lib.)
  • Dec/2/22 11:47:29 a.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Madam Speaker, I can assure my colleague and the NDP, and, in fact, all parliamentarians who want to advance a responsible debate about this, that we are not going to target those guns which are used conventionally for hunting. We are targeting those guns like AR-15 style firearms, which have caused too many casualties right across the country. I know that my colleague and I, and others who are contributing to a responsible debate about this, will get there. What is important is that we keep our streets safe from gun violence and that is exactly what we are going to do.
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Mr. Gord Johns (Courtenay—Alberni, NDP)
  • Dec/2/22 11:48:02 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, again, I am warning the government of huge risks from unregulated shipbreaking. An oil spill was discovered on the shoreline of a shipbreaking facility in Union Bay on Vancouver Island. This facility has been operating despite legal challenges and objections from local governments and first nations. Baynes Sound is critical to our local economy and ecosystems. It is home to over 50% of B.C. shellfish and is important for herring spawning. The government's oceans protection plan is nowhere to be found. Will the government finally act by creating by robust federal ship recycling regulations?
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Mr. Terry Duguid (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Environment and Climate Change, Lib.)
  • Dec/2/22 11:48:41 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I want to thank the hon. member for his environmental advocacy. We know that oil spills are a very serious thing in ocean environments. We have the oceans protection plan, over a billion dollars, as the hon. member will know. I would like to take this issue up with him off-line and see what we can do about his particular situation.
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Mr. Majid Jowhari (Richmond Hill, Lib.)
  • Dec/2/22 11:49:11 a.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-22 
Madam Speaker, the prosperity of our communities is reliant on the social and economic inclusion of persons with disabilities. It is essential that Canadians with disabilities are empowered to live a meaningful, dignified and quality life. Organizations in Richmond Hill such as L'Arche Daybreak, OpenMind Alliance Academy and My MS Family of York Region have dedicated themselves to the well-being and inclusion of persons with disabilities and serve as an admirable example of how people of different intellectual disabilities can live and learn together. As tomorrow marks the International Day of Persons with Disabilities, can the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Employment, Workforce Development and Disability Inclusion update the House on how our government is working to build a more inclusive and accessible Canada for everyone?
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Mr. Irek Kusmierczyk (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Employment, Workforce Development and Disability Inclusion, Lib.)
  • Dec/2/22 11:50:03 a.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-22 
Madam Speaker, I thank the hon. member for Richmond Hill for his tireless work on behalf of all persons with disabilities and all constituents. In October we launched the first-ever disability inclusion action plan, a road map for our country to remove barriers by focusing on financial security, employment, accessible and inclusive communities and a modern approach to disability. With Bill C-22, we have the framework legislation in place to create the groundbreaking Canada disability benefit. Tomorrow, today and every day, let us celebrate the accomplishments of persons with disabilities as we work together to build a more inclusive and more accessible Canada.
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Mr. Michael Cooper (St. Albert—Edmonton, CPC)
  • Dec/2/22 11:50:45 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, the Prime Minister has repeatedly cited national security as a pretext to avoid answering basic questions about Beijing's election interference. This is exactly the opposite of the advice he received from CSIS, which said that the government's policy in combatting foreign interference should be grounded in transparency and sunlight and that foreign interference should be exposed to the public. Why does the Prime Minister refuse to follow the advice of CSIS?
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Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs, Infrastructure and Communities, Lib.)
  • Dec/2/22 11:51:20 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, the importance of our national security and protecting our democracies should be something every single Canadian takes seriously. While the Conservatives continue to play politics with our national security, serious governments like ours take national security seriously. All of the information that Conservatives want would be available. All we are asking is that it be treated in a way that protects our national security and ensures that our adversaries do not get access to the very information they would try to use to undermine our democracy.
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Mr. Michael Cooper (St. Albert—Edmonton, CPC)
  • Dec/2/22 11:51:56 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, the Prime Minister very conveniently and very specifically claims he was not briefed about candidates receiving money from China, except that is not what is at issue. What is at issue is a vast campaign of election interference by Beijing involving 11 candidates. Was the Prime Minister briefed about that, yes or no?
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Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs, Infrastructure and Communities, Lib.)
  • Dec/2/22 11:52:23 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, as I said, the protection of our democracy is paramount, but with that, protecting our democracy also means respecting it. Yesterday, the member opposite, when I rose in this place, continually screamed for me to sit down, yet he did not have that same emotional outburst when the Minister of Public Safety was answering that question. I have some advice for the members opposite. If they support the protection of democracy—
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Mr. Michael Cooper
  • Dec/2/22 11:52:55 a.m.
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I don't need any advice from you, Jennifer. Just answer the question.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/2/22 11:52:55 a.m.
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The response from the member for St. Albert—Edmonton while the parliamentary secretary was speaking is also not acceptable. She was answering the question and she does not need to be told that she needs to sit down. Some hon. members: Oh, oh! The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes): I will correct the last point, but what was happening is unacceptable. The hon. member for Barrie—Innisfil.
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Ms. Jennifer O'Connell
  • Dec/2/22 11:52:55 a.m.
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—they might want to start by respecting the women who have been democratically elected in this place.
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Mr. John Brassard (Barrie—Innisfil, CPC)
  • Dec/2/22 11:53:51 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, like a game of dodge ball, the Prime Minister has become very deft at the five Ds of question period: dodge, deny, deflect, deceive and drivel. The problem is that when it comes to China's interference in our Canadian elections, it is not a game, because it is serious business. It has been widely reported that the Prime Minister received specific credible information on election interference in Canada, and he has done nothing about it. Let us try again. Has the Prime Minister received any briefings or memos, verbal or written, specific to foreign interference in Canadian elections by the Chinese Communist government, yes or no?
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/2/22 11:53:51 a.m.
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The hon. member for Lethbridge is out of order. The hon. member for Barrie—Innisfil.
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Mrs. Rachael Thomas
  • Dec/2/22 11:53:51 a.m.
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Wow.
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Hon. Marco Mendicino (Minister of Public Safety, Lib.)
  • Dec/2/22 11:54:32 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I assure my colleague that we take all allegations of foreign interference very seriously. That is why we struck independent non-partisan professional panels to look at these allegations, which subsequently confirmed the results of the elections in 2019 and 2021 were both free and fair. More importantly, we are going to continue to do everything to protect our democratic institutions, including our elections, so that Canadians can have their voices represented in this chamber, including my hon. colleague, the parliamentary secretary for intergovernmental affairs, who does stellar work for her riding and on this issue.
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