44th Parl. 1st Sess.
February 1, 2023 02:00PM
- Feb/1/23 2:24:17 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, as these contracts were, for the large part, signed and negotiated by the public service, it is important that we actually be able to have clarity on the answers, which is why I have asked the Minister of Public Services and the President of the Treasury Board to look in carefully to make sure Canadians did get value for money and that all the rules and procedures were appropriately followed. The ministers of course will be sharing that information with committees and with all parliamentarians. It is important Canadians see exactly how government is investing their money.
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- Feb/1/23 2:24:52 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, he says that the public servants recruited McKinsey and its managing director, Dominic Barton. That is not what he said before, and I quote, “I met the leaders of major corporations from around the world, and one thing they all had in common? They all knew Dominic. I came to appreciate, maybe even envy, Dominic's contact list, so we recruited him.” That is far from having public servants do it. In fact, public servants say they have no idea what McKinsey actually did for all this money.
Given that he recruited this company, how much did he pay it?
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- Feb/1/23 2:25:37 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, over our time in office, I have been touched by seeing how many Canadians of extraordinary backgrounds have put their hands up and offered to serve their country, to contribute to Canadian success and contribute to government. Dominic Barton has certainly served his country in many ways, including by being an outstanding ambassador to China.
In regard to contracts assigned to McKinsey by the public service, as I said, we are following up on how those contracts were chosen, allocated and fulfilled.
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- Feb/1/23 2:26:22 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, he always blames everybody else for his actions. After eight years in government, he never takes responsibility, so now he is blaming the public servants for paying over $120 million to his friends at McKinsey.
Here is what the public servants told the media, “We had a few presentations on very generic, completely vapid stuff. They arrived with nice colours, nice presentations and said they would revolutionize everything. In the end, we don't have any idea what they did.” What they did is get over $120 million. We still do not know exactly how much.
What was the total?
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- Feb/1/23 2:27:05 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, as I said, the ministers are appropriately looking into it to make sure all rules were followed.
As we move forward, we are focused on Canadians right now and the need to support Canadians who are going through a really difficult time, whether it is grocery prices, whether it is gas or whether it is paying their rents. That is why we have stepped up with direct supports for Canadians. We will continue to, and we certainly hope the Conservatives, putting aside their opposition to more support for Canadians who are renting or more support so people can send their kids to the dentist, will step up and support on child care, disability and other investments that support Canadians.
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- Feb/1/23 2:27:46 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, well, after eight years in power, rents have doubled from $1,000 to $2,000. Monthly mortgage payments have doubled from $1,500 to well over $3,000. One in five Canadians is skipping meals, and half of Canadians are cutting groceries because of the food price inflation that his carbon tax has caused.
Where is the money going? There was $15 billion for high-priced consultants like McKinsey. When he hired McKinsey, he announced that it was for $1 a year, up to at least $120 million a year.
How do you explain that? It is just inflation?
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- Feb/1/23 2:28:31 p.m.
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I just want to remind the hon. members to place their questions through the Speaker not to the Speaker, and you cannot do indirectly what you cannot do directly.
The right hon. Prime Minister.
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- Feb/1/23 2:28:41 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, while the Conservative Party focuses on schoolyard taunts, we are going to stay focused on being there for Canadians.
We have stepped up with investments that have helped Canadians significantly through this difficult time. We know people are facing tough times, and that is why we continue to step up with a doubling of the GST credit over six months, with moving forward on support for low-income renters and so that all families can send their kids to the dentists.
Unfortunately and inexplicably, despite all of his rhetoric, the Leader of the Opposition stood against those last two measures.
We are hoping that they are going to see that investing in and supporting Canadians, not abandoning the middle class, is what we need from them.
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- Feb/1/23 2:29:23 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, in light of recent events and the tensions surrounding the arrival of the representative chosen by the Prime Minister, whom I met today at noon, in light of past and perhaps regrettable comments—it is not for me to judge—and in light of the polarizing effect this is having on Quebec and Canada, if the Prime Minister's objective is mutual understanding between communities, will he recognize that he went about it the wrong way?
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- Feb/1/23 2:29:56 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, it is very clear that we have to have some difficult conversations as a society. It is always important to have those difficult conversations, whether it is to address systemic racism across the country or to stand up for fundamental rights and freedoms. There are always difficult and important conversations that need to happen, and I think people understand that rhetoric and exaggeration on either side do not help. That is why we appointed a special representative on combatting Islamophobia, who I know will lead these conversations so that we can build bridges the right way.
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- Feb/1/23 2:30:36 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I agree that that is important, but it does not have to be this difficult. To reduce polarization, to really work on getting to know each other and mitigate the serious impact of these recent decisions, will the Prime Minister smooth things over and stand in the House and admit that Bill 21 is not Islamophobic?
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- Feb/1/23 2:31:07 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, for years, I have been expressing my concerns about the fact that some laws, including Bill 21, may violate fundamental civil liberties. I know not everyone shares that perspective, but I hope, based on the emotion shown by my hon. colleague and the wishes he has expressed, that we will be able to have the difficult but responsible conversations on these issues so that we can bring people together rater than stirring up trouble and sowing division.
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- Feb/1/23 2:31:41 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, when one or one's loved one falls sick, or one's mom needs a surgery, one needs nurses in the hospital to provide that care. When the Prime Minister was elected, the shortage of nurses was 5,800, and the shortage of nurses is now 29,000 positions.
The situation has gotten a lot worse, not better. The Prime Minister promised to hire more nurses but has not done that. When Conservative premiers want to privatize, for profit, our services, he encourages it and celebrates it.
Why has the nursing shortage gotten worse and not better with the Prime Minister?
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- Feb/1/23 2:32:23 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, through the depths of the pandemic, this federal government stepped up with over $72 billion in extra investments in health care across the country, on top of the $40 billion or so a year we send to the provinces for delivery of health care, to hire nurses and to ensure proper health care delivery across the country.
One of the things we saw during the pandemic was that there was a need to continue and even to increase working together to ensure that Canadians get the best possible medical services across the country.
That is why we will be sitting down with the provinces next week to talk about the future of health care services across this country.
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- Feb/1/23 2:33:05 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, when the Prime Minister took office, there was a shortage of 5,800 nurses. Things are now five times worse. He promised to hire more nurses, but he broke his promise. He thinks the provincial premiers' move to privatize our health care system is innovative.
Why is the Prime Minister making the crisis worse instead of improving our health care system?
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- Feb/1/23 2:33:36 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, on the contrary, when we saw the challenges Canadians were dealing with during the pandemic, the federal government stepped up with $72 billion in extra investments in health care, on top of the $40 billion we send the provinces every year for health care delivery. We know it is going to take more.
We are going to sit down with the provinces next week to talk about how to boost investment and co-operation to provide better health care to Canadians across the country, within our public system, of course.
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- Feb/1/23 2:34:16 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we know that the insiders at McKinsey got rich, and we know that Canadians got 40-year highs of inflation. However, after eight years of the Prime Minister and $15 billion for consultants, what did Canadians get? They got record food bank visits, he doubled their rent and he doubled their mortgage payments. The Prime Minister says that things have never been better, and for him and his friends, that is true. However, over here in the real world, Canadians are struggling.
Will the Prime Minister show some humility, admit there is a problem and start working for ordinary Canadians?
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- Feb/1/23 2:34:52 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, that might be a little more credible coming from the Conservatives if they had not voted against benefits for low-income renters just a few months ago, and if they had not voted against extra supports so families who could not afford to send their kids to the dentist could finally send them to the dentist.
What we hear from the Conservative Party is promotion of cuts and promotion of austerity, instead of stepping up and actually investing in the support that Canadians need. We manage to deliver targeted supports in a way that maintains our strong fiscal position so that we are coming through these difficult times by leaning on each other as we always do.
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- Feb/1/23 2:35:33 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I know that the Prime Minister does not want to talk about his friends at McKinsey. The only person in Canada who thinks things are good is the Prime Minister. After eight long years and the billions that he is bragging about, he has given Canadians long lineups at airports, long immigration backlogs with numbers into the millions and long wait times for passports. SNC-Lavalin, WE Charity, McKinsey and the list goes on and on. At every point, he is working for well-connected insiders and leaving the middle class behind.
Will he finally take responsibility for that?
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- Feb/1/23 2:36:09 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, as Conservatives continue to blame the government for everything from COVID-19 to the war on Ukraine, we are going to continue to be there to invest in Canadians and to support people through the difficult times they are going through.
That is why we have consistently stepped up to invest in Canadians, despite Conservatives screaming every day that we were doing too much for Canadians and that we were helping too much through this pandemic. The reality is that we stepped up and our economy bounced back strongly. We are going to continue to step up as Canadians face difficult times with inflation and rising interest rates. We will be there for Canadians, despite the Conservatives calling for cuts.
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