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House Hansard - 176

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
March 30, 2023 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 176 - Mar/30/23
Mrs. Jenica Atwin
  • Mar/30/23 7:10:12 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-11 
Madam Speaker, I am just wondering about the relevance of what the hon. member is discussing right now, so that we could get back on track for Bill C-11.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Mar/30/23 7:10:20 p.m.
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There is a lot of attitude in how we manage debates. I am sure the hon. member will bring it to the point of the bill. The hon. member.
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Mr. Mel Arnold
  • Mar/30/23 7:10:31 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I expected that the Liberals might wonder what I am getting to. What I am getting to is the fact that they cannot be trusted, so why should we trust them on this bill? As I was mentioning, the list of egregious actions by the government just continues to grow. I spoke about the ethics breaches, how that was dragged out—
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Mr. Peter Julian
  • Mar/30/23 7:11:04 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, on a point of order, it is obvious the member has not read the bill, because he is not referring to it. I would question relevance. If he has not read the bill, why is he speaking to it in the House?
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Mar/30/23 7:11:14 p.m.
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I am hoping the hon. member still has enough time in his speech to bring us to the relevance. The hon. member for Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies.
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Mr. Bob Zimmer
  • Mar/30/23 7:11:26 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, just in response to the NDP member—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Mar/30/23 7:11:31 p.m.
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There is no debate here, as I already stated. The hon. member will bring us to the point in his time. The hon. member for North Okanagan—Shuswap.
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Mr. Mel Arnold
  • Mar/30/23 7:11:41 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, it is obvious the government does not want to hear the truth. It is going to try to push beyond the time allocation on this vote because it does not want to hear the truth. This is what it is trying to hide from Canadians and that is what I am trying to get at here. We heard about the ethics breaches of the Prime Minister that he tried to hide, and how about the WE Charity scandal when the Liberals shut down Parliament? I was beginning to speak about the Minister of International Trade, Export Promotion, Small Business and Economic Development, who hired a company co-owned by a close friend. This was another ethics breach. How about a housing minister who granted $133,000 to a group whose—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Mar/30/23 7:12:23 p.m.
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The hon. member for New Westminster—Burnaby is rising on a point of order.
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Mr. Peter Julian
  • Mar/30/23 7:12:26 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I think members of the House have been very patient. The member has not read the bill. He does not understand the bill. He is not speaking to the bill. I do question relevance when he has a speech that has nothing to do with the bill.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Mar/30/23 7:12:43 p.m.
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We are approaching the halfway point in the time allocated for the speech, and there has been no reference to the bill in question. I recommend the hon. member get to that point, please.
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Mr. Mel Arnold
  • Mar/30/23 7:12:53 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, the members will see, as I conclude my speech, how all of what I am saying is very much relevant. More recently, we heard news about the foreign influence that happened in the 2019 and 2021 elections, but the Liberals were not going to tell anyone about it until the news broke in the media. Then they appointed a friend—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Mar/30/23 7:13:22 p.m.
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The hon. member for New Westminster—Burnaby is rising on a point of order.
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Mr. Peter Julian
  • Mar/30/23 7:13:26 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, you have been very patient. This is a violation of our Standing Orders. The member has not read the bill and does not understand the bill. He must refer to the bill; otherwise, we should move on to the next speaker.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Mar/30/23 7:13:40 p.m.
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I asked the hon. member to return to the bill, and the hon. member assured us that he will get there, so I am going to take him at his word. The hon. member for Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman.
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Mr. James Bezan
  • Mar/30/23 7:13:52 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, on a point of order, the member for New Westminster—Burnaby continues to interrupt proceedings. He is not allowing debate to take place. He is not allowing anything to be talked about. I know he is a Liberal lapdog—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Mar/30/23 7:14:05 p.m.
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Let us not debate and let us not start insulting people. I have made my ruling. The hon. member for North Okanagan—Shuswap.
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Mr. Mel Arnold
  • Mar/30/23 7:14:12 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, these interruptions are absolutely another example of the egregious actions of the Liberal-NDP government. That is what I will get to in this speech, if they quit interrupting me and allow me to finish. Further to these attempts to limit what Canadians can see, we just heard yesterday what appeared to be more evidence of a government that wants to control and censor what Canadians see, share and read. The government has appointed an interim Ethics Commissioner with family ties to the Liberals. This may not sound bad enough at first glance, but upon further examination, it is not just a connection of a Liberal family. It is the same Liberal family that was involved when the former fisheries minister was found in breach of conflict of interest rules for approving a deal that could see a Liberal family friend reap big benefits. The deal was clam scam. The former fisheries minister issued a licence worth $24 million to a company that was run by his wife's cousin. Now it is the same Liberal cabinet minister's sister-in-law who has been appointed the watchdog of a corrupt Liberal government.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • Mar/30/23 7:15:46 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I would like to think I have been as patient as you with regard to seeing the member become somewhat relevant. The member cannot say at the beginning of his speech that in the last 30 seconds he will be relevant to the bill, or that he will be making in the first nine and a half minutes an argument that will become relevant in the last 30 seconds. The member does need to provide some comment on the bill throughout the speech, not just in the last minute of it.
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Mr. John Brassard
  • Mar/30/23 7:16:18 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, on a point of order, I ask for you to be judicious in this particular speech. This is an elected member of Parliament. He has been elected by his constituents to represent them in this place, and I ask that you not allow these interruptions to occur. You have ruled that the member will be going back to the point. He has already made that clear. He is an elected member of Parliament and has every right, in spite of the fact that they stand up and interrupt him, to—
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