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Context: House Hansard - 180 - Apr/19/23

Right Hon. Justin Trudeau (Prime Minister, Lib.)

Apr/19/23 3:06:16 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I thank the member for Châteauguay—Lacolle for her question and for the hard work she does. We recently announced that the Davie shipyard in Lévis has become the third partner under the national shipbuilding strategy. The deal represents $21 billion in economic benefits and 4,500 jobs in the Quebec City region. Davie is already working on the design for six icebreakers and one polar icebreaker, to be built for the Canadian Coast Guard. We will be there for the Davie shipyard and we will be there for the workers of Quebec, in a way the Conservative Party was never able to.

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Hon. Pierre Poilievre (Leader of the Opposition, CPC)

Apr/19/23 3:06:55 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, so if people just pay this 41¢-a-litre tax, the Prime Minister will send them something called a “carbon price return”. That is his latest term for it. It is almost like when one gets one of those emails asking for the password to one's bank account, so that a carbon price return can be deposited into it. Canadians know this tax is a scam. It has not reached any of the climate change targets, and yet it is going to be a net cost to every family of $1,500. Canadians cannot afford to eat, heat or house themselves. Will the Prime Minister axe his tax?

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Right Hon. Justin Trudeau (Prime Minister, Lib.)

Apr/19/23 3:07:37 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I suggest that the member opposite choose to spend a little time in his riding of Carleton, because if he did, he would hear from family members and individuals in his riding who just last Friday received a climate action incentive cheque. This went to families right across his riding, right across Ontario, with one payment every three months that will total over $1,000 for Ontario families of four. This will help them offset the price that we have put on pollution and continue to build good jobs and a better future for all Canadians. That is what we are doing. People know we have to fight climate change and support families.

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Hon. Pierre Poilievre (Leader of the Opposition, CPC)

Apr/19/23 3:08:20 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I have spent time in my riding, and what they are talking about is that they cannot afford to put gas in their car because the Prime Minister's carbon tax is already 14¢ a litre, rising to 41¢ a litre. On page 3 of the report by the Parliamentary Budget Officer, whom he appointed, it says that the net cost to the average Ontario family above and beyond any rebate cheques they will get is $1,820 a year. This is not an environmental plan. It is a tax scam. Will he axe the tax?

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Right Hon. Justin Trudeau (Prime Minister, Lib.)

Apr/19/23 3:08:59 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Parliamentary Budget Officer's report concurs with our analysis, which points out that eight out of 10 families across the country in regions where the federal backstop is brought in do better with the climate action rebate than the carbon price costs them. This is something that is well established. What is less clear is how the Conservative Party of Canada plans to grow the economy and create good jobs for the future when it refuses to accept climate change is real and that it also provides an opportunity to innovate and grow the economy.

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Hon. Pierre Poilievre (Leader of the Opposition, CPC)

Apr/19/23 3:09:40 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, page 3 of the Parliamentary Budget Officer's report shows that when they add the fiscal and economic costs, the net cost is $1,820 per Ontario family above and beyond the rebates, with the vast majority paying more than they get back. Apparently the environment minister did not get the memo. He let the cat out of the bag and admitted that Canadians would pay more in taxes than they got back in any benefits, proving that everything the Prime Minister has said on this tax has been false. Why will the Prime Minister not admit what his environment minister has already said and say this is a scam?

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Right Hon. Justin Trudeau (Prime Minister, Lib.)

Apr/19/23 3:10:21 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, it would do some good for the Leader of the Opposition to speak to some of his caucus members, whether from the Lower Mainland and the Fraser Valley in B.C. or whether from across the Prairies, places where they are dealing with flooding or more extreme wildfires. To think that there is no cost associated with climate change— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!

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The Speaker

Apr/19/23 3:10:42 p.m.
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It is getting loud again. I just want to make sure that the hon. member who asks the question gets to hear the answer. We do not want shouting or trying to interrupt anyone. I am going to ask everyone to just take a deep breath. The Right Hon. Prime Minister, maybe start from the top so the hon. member can hear the answer.

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Right Hon. Justin Trudeau

Apr/19/23 3:11:01 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, over the past years we have seen right across the country that the cost of inaction on fighting climate change is getting alarmingly high. This includes in many Conservative-held ridings that should be telling this to their leader. Whether in floods, wildfires or droughts, we are seeing the impacts of climate change that are going to get worse and worse. That is why it is necessary to have a plan to fight climate change and grow the economy in sustainable ways that would give great jobs to Canadians for the coming decades. That is exactly what we have done with our approach on fighting climate change and in our latest budget.

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Mr. Sameer Zuberi (Pierrefonds—Dollard, Lib.)

Apr/19/23 3:11:45 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, last week, Environment and Climate Change Canada released Canada's national greenhouse gas inventory. This annual exercise summarizes Canada's progress in the fight against climate change. There is a lot of good news in the report. Can the Prime Minister inform the House about Canada's record on reducing greenhouse gas emissions?

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Right Hon. Justin Trudeau (Prime Minister, Lib.)

Apr/19/23 3:12:16 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I thank the member for Pierrefonds—Dollard for the question. It is very important, especially in light of the questions the Conservatives just asked. We are pleased to report that Canada's emissions are down from 2019 and 2005 levels, and we continue to grow our economy at the same time. This progress did not just come out of nowhere. Since 2015, we have taken historic action, and this includes putting a price on pollution—

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The Speaker

Apr/19/23 3:12:46 p.m.
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I apologize, but it is nearly impossible to hear the answer. I must ask everyone to quiet down. The right hon. Prime Minister may resume his response.

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Right Hon. Justin Trudeau

Apr/19/23 3:13:03 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we are pleased to report that Canada's emissions are down from 2019 and 2005 levels, and we continue to grow our economy at the same time. This progress did not just come out of nowhere. Since 2015, we have taken historic action, and this includes putting a price on pollution. While Conservative politicians say that we have to choose between clean air and a strong economy, we are achieving both, and are on track to meet our 2030 climate targets.

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Mr. Blake Desjarlais (Edmonton Griesbach, NDP)

Apr/19/23 3:13:38 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we have heard a lot of non-answers today. Workers deserve decent wages and good working conditions. The Liberal government claims it supports workers, but at the last moment, the Liberals act like Conservatives and do not have the workers' backs when they take a stand. For the final and last time today, will the government commit to protecting workers' rights and not force workers back to work? Is the answer yes or no?

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Right Hon. Justin Trudeau (Prime Minister, Lib.)

Apr/19/23 3:14:09 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we are engaged in full respect, in debate, in discussions and negotiations at the bargaining table, which is where that needs to happen. Our negotiators and the unions are hard at work finding a way to ensure that we continue to support and respect the extraordinary public servants who have worked so hard, including over these past difficult years of the pandemic, to deliver services for Canadians at the same time as we move forward in a way that is responsible for Canadian taxpayers. This is the work we will do in good faith and positivity, just as we have always engaged with unions across the country.

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Mr. Kevin Vuong (Spadina—Fort York, Ind.)

Apr/19/23 3:14:51 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, most Canadians know that the federal carbon tax is a farce. It siphons 14.3¢ a litre from the pockets of consumers. It increases the cost of living. It contributes to inflation and it causes even higher food prices. Sadly, the carbon tax does little to fight climate change. Equally disturbing, there is— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!

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The Speaker

Apr/19/23 3:15:15 p.m.
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I am going to interrupt and ask the hon. member to start again. I just could not hear the question.

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Mr. Kevin Vuong

Apr/19/23 3:15:23 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, most Canadians know that the federal carbon tax is a farce. It siphons 14.3¢ a litre from the pockets of consumers. It increases the cost of living. It contributes to inflation and it causes even higher food prices. Sadly, the carbon tax does little to fight climate change. Equally disturbing, there is tax cascading, where the government levies the GST on all the other gasoline taxes. It is taxing taxes. If the Prime Minister wants to provide a meaningful, sustained rebate to financially struggling Canadians, why does he not lower his carbon tax cash cow and axe the tax on gasoline taxes?

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Right Hon. Justin Trudeau (Prime Minister, Lib.)

Apr/19/23 3:16:06 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I can only think of the poor residents of Spadina—Fort York, who elected a member who would promise to fight for the environment, fight— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!

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The Speaker

Apr/19/23 3:16:19 p.m.
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Order. Please continue.

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