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House Hansard - 201

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 29, 2023 11:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 201 - May/29/23
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  • May/29/23 9:29:52 p.m.
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The hon. member.
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Mrs. Stephanie Kusie
  • May/29/23 9:29:53 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, does she have a relationship with Dominic Barton?
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland
  • May/29/23 9:29:59 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, we have spoken about quickies earlier this evening, so I am not sure to what the member opposite is—
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The Chair
  • May/29/23 9:30:07 p.m.
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The hon. member for Calgary Midnapore.
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Mrs. Stephanie Kusie
  • May/29/23 9:30:10 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, has she ever discussed policy with him?
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland
  • May/29/23 9:30:14 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, I first met Mr. Barton when I was a financial journalist—
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The Chair
  • May/29/23 9:30:21 p.m.
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The hon. member.
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Mrs. Stephanie Kusie
  • May/29/23 9:30:22 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, in an article published by the CBC on January 24, 2023, two public servants from IRCC came forward about the role McKinsey had been playing in the policy decisions of the government. The sources were also critical of McKinsey's possible influence over Canada's immigration targets. Have the Deputy Prime Minister and Mr. Barton ever discussed immigration policy?
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland
  • May/29/23 9:30:43 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, as I said, as a financial journalist, I often interviewed many people from McKinsey and other international businesses. As the finance minister, one of my jobs is to talk to business leaders from Canada and around the world. That is one of the things that I do.
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Mrs. Stephanie Kusie
  • May/29/23 9:31:07 p.m.
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Madam Chair, can the deputy minister inform us as to McKinsey's role in the creation of the Canada Infrastructure Bank?
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland
  • May/29/23 9:31:17 p.m.
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Madam Chair, the Canada Infrastructure Bank was set up when I was trade minister and foreign minister, so I was not directly involved in its creation.
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Mrs. Stephanie Kusie
  • May/29/23 9:31:30 p.m.
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Madam Chair, has the Deputy Prime Minister ever worked with Mr. Sabia?
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland
  • May/29/23 9:31:36 p.m.
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Madam Chair, yes, I certainly have worked extensively with our deputy minister of finance.
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Mrs. Stephanie Kusie
  • May/29/23 9:31:42 p.m.
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Madam Chair, have the Deputy Prime Minister and Mr. Sabia ever discussed the Canada Infrastructure Bank?
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland
  • May/29/23 9:31:48 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I have certainly discussed the Canada Infrastructure Bank with our deputy minister of finance, and in fact the Canada Infrastructure Bank is referred to in all the—
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The Deputy Chair
  • May/29/23 9:31:56 p.m.
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The hon. member for Calgary Midnapore.
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Mrs. Stephanie Kusie
  • May/29/23 9:31:58 p.m.
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Madam Chair, as part of our study of McKinsey and Company, we have asked all federal departments, agencies and Crown corporations to provide documents relative to their work with McKinsey and Company. As of today, six of 21 organizations that have been asked three times—first on January 18, second on March 5 by the Chair and a third time on March 8—have not completed their submissions, and 16 have submitted redacted documents. McKinsey itself has provided all unredacted pages. As McKinsey has submitted all unredacted documentation, the onus is on the deputy prime minister, as head of government, to ask these organizations to comply with our request for complete and unredacted documents. Will she do this?
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The Deputy Chair
  • May/29/23 9:32:35 p.m.
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We have a point of order from the hon. parliamentary secretary to the government House leader.
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Mr. Mark Gerretsen
  • May/29/23 9:32:40 p.m.
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Madam Chair, the discussion we are having today is supposed to be on the main estimates. This seems to be outside of that scope. They are asking questions for clarification on what a committee has been requesting and what the minister's role in that is. I am sure these are questions that can be asked during question period. This discussion is about the budget estimates specifically.
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The Deputy Chair
  • May/29/23 9:33:01 p.m.
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I will allow the minister to answer. I do want to remind members that the questions to be asked are to be related to the main estimates. The hon. minister.
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