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House Hansard - 203

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 31, 2023 02:00PM
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The hon. Leader of the Opposition.
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  • May/31/23 2:40:59 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, they do not have to brief me on the laws. I have actually read them. Subsection 12(1) of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians Act says that not only would I be silenced from speaking about matters broadly, but I would be prevented from debating them on the floor of the House of Commons, which is exactly what the Prime Minister wants. He is not going to get it. I will not be gagged. I will not be silenced. I will continue to seek the truth. Here is the truth that I want him to finally speak to. We have known that there are foreign police stations operating on Canadian soil. We know the Prime Minister's government has given them tax dollars. How much did he give them?
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  • May/31/23 2:41:44 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, hiding behind “a veil of ignorance” is very characteristic for a leader who has no interest— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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  • May/31/23 2:41:54 p.m.
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I am going to interrupt the right hon. Prime Minister. I got some complaints because there were some people shouting from this side when the opposition leader was asking a question. I am going to ask the same courtesy from both sides. I do not think it is that hard. It is not that complicated. When somebody is speaking, we do not speak. The right hon. Prime Minister.
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  • May/31/23 2:42:17 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, hiding behind “a veil of ignorance” is very characteristic for a leader who has no interest in actual facts. There is nothing stopping him right now from getting cleared, briefed, and disagreeing with the former governor general's conclusions if he so chooses, regardless of his opinions. He is entitled to those. He is not entitled to his own facts. Please, I really encourage the Leader of the Opposition to get briefed—
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  • May/31/23 2:42:49 p.m.
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The hon. Leader of the Opposition.
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  • May/31/23 2:42:51 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, all Canadians are entitled to the facts. That is why we want a public inquiry. We know that Beijing gave $140,000 to the Trudeau Foundation. We know that when the scandal broke, he named Mr. Rosenberg to look into it. Rosenberg is with the Trudeau Foundation. When the scandal exploded further, he named Mr. Johnston, also a member of the Trudeau Foundation. What did he do? He named another judge from the Trudeau Foundation to look into the conflict of interest. Is the Prime Minister afraid of a public inquiry because he has run out of members of the Trudeau Foundation to run it?
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  • May/31/23 2:43:30 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, while the Leader of the Opposition continues with his personal and partisan attacks, we are going to continue to— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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  • May/31/23 2:43:42 p.m.
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I am sorry. I have a question for all members to reflect on. I do not want anybody to shout the answer out. This is not a question I want answered. What part of “while somebody is speaking, we sit quietly and listen” do we not understand? Write me an email if you want once we are done, and you can explain it to me, because I do not understand it. The right hon. Prime Minister, from the top, please.
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  • May/31/23 2:44:10 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, once again, we see that the Leader of the Opposition, on this very serious issue, has not nothing to offer other than partisan attacks and personal attacks, rather than actually dealing with the substance of this serious issue. To deal with the substance of this serious issue, we have directed intelligence agencies to offer him secure briefings so that he can understand the facts underlying both the former governor general's report and the issue of foreign interference. He has simply refused because he does not want anything, like facts in particular, to get in the way of a good partisan argument.
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  • May/31/23 2:44:50 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, Canadians are entitled to the facts. When Beijing gave $140,000 to the Trudeau Foundation, a scandal broke. To investigate, the Prime Minister appointed Mr. Rosenberg, a member of the Trudeau Foundation. The scandal exploded further. He then appointed Mr. Johnston, who is a member of the Trudeau Foundation. To ensure that there was no conflict of interest, Mr. Johnston appointed Mr. Iacobucci, who is a member of the Trudeau Foundation. Does the Prime Minister not want a public inquiry because he has run out of members of the Trudeau Foundation to run it?
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  • May/31/23 2:45:32 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Leader of the Opposition has made several comments about how Canadians are entitled to all the facts. However, he understands very well, or he should understand, that members of the armed forces and the intelligence services are working in incredibly complex and difficult situations that make them vulnerable in foreign countries in order to keep Canadians safe. They conduct investigations to uncover the secrets of countries that would do us harm. The idea that he does not understand how much we, as members of the House and as Canadians, need to protect those who serve Canada in this regard is—
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  • May/31/23 2:46:14 p.m.
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The hon. member for Beloeil—Chambly.
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  • May/31/23 2:46:16 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I want to use another example. The Quebec National Assembly is unanimously asking for information about Ottawa's interference in the democratic process during the 1995 referendum. The Prime Minister is choosing secrecy. This Parliament is asking to have the information from David Johnston's secret briefings entrusted to an independent commissioner. Again, the Prime Minister is choosing to keep his buddy's secrets. Either the Prime Minister is weak, or he is being used by a foreign power. Is this Prime Minister working for his country, or for the financial interests of his Liberal friends?
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  • May/31/23 2:46:58 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the member started off by talking about the 1995 referendum and ended by talking about money and the ethnic vote. Let us take a look at what the member just said. The Bloc is caught up in old arguments, and that is just what it is banking on. It always wants to attack— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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  • May/31/23 2:47:20 p.m.
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In the history of Parliament, there has been one instance when the Speaker decided he was fed up with question period and walked out. The sitting was suspended for about 30 minutes. Today, I am sorely tempted to do the same. I invite the Prime Minister to begin again from the start.
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  • May/31/23 2:47:53 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Bloc Québécois leader is bringing us back to the 1995 referendum, even though it is now 2023, and at the end of his question, he alluded to money and the ethnic vote. The Bloc Québécois has truly become a laughing stock for how little they care about foreign interference. They only care about picking a fight here in Ottawa. We take these issues seriously. We will continue to work with the necessary seriousness on these issues that are important to Canadians, while continuing to create a strong and growing economy, and continuing to fight climate change.
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  • May/31/23 2:48:36 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I would like to suggest a hypothesis that explains why we are seeing what we are seeing. Has there ever been a Prime Minister less serious than this one, or one so unworthy of the office he holds? We are talking about the intimidation of elected officials, illegal election financing, industrial espionage, research funded by Huawei, the Trudeau Foundation and contempt for intelligence officers. We already know more than enough to demand a truly independent and public inquiry, not just this nonsense from his buddy. Will the Prime Minister scrap his policy, which is damaging to Canada and Quebec, and is good for China?
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  • May/31/23 2:49:14 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the leader of the Bloc Québécois just said “we already know more than enough”, but the reality is that he does not know because he refused to receive briefings on confidential intelligence that has been gathered by our security intelligence services. He refuses to hear the facts at the heart of the matter of Chinese interference so that he can continue his personal and partisan attacks and his bickering. All Canadians, including Quebeckers, deserve representatives that take the issue of foreign interference seriously. That is what we are doing.
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  • May/31/23 2:49:57 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the B.C. Centre for Disease Control revealed today that it now costs over $1,200 a month for a basket of nutritious food for the average family in that province. It is an explosion of costs that have taken place under the Prime Minister. Those numbers come from a year ago, and the same report says that prices are higher now. Now the Prime Minister's solution for that is a 61¢-a-litre carbon tax that will push gas prices well over two dollars a litre and increase the cost to farmers and truckers who bring us our food. How much will that increase the cost of food for Canadians?
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