44th Parl. 1st Sess.
June 7, 2023 02:00PM
- Jun/7/23 2:40:01 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, let me quote what was said of the former governor general:
I think we're dealing with a very credible individual, and I think that that distant history bears little relevance to the fact that he has a very distinguished career. If we're suggesting just because at some point in history he was appointed by a former Conservative prime minister that he should be disqualified from participating in public life, I think that is a little bit extreme. This is a very qualified individual, and frankly, I haven't heard anybody question his integrity, and I have no reason to do so.
That was the Leader of the Opposition, the member for Carleton.
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- Jun/7/23 2:40:41 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the special rapporteur's mandate is all about Beijing's interference in our electoral process. In Canada, we have only one federal electoral process; we have only one democratic institution, and that is the election of members to this House of Commons. Three times in the past three months, this House has voted for an independent public inquiry, yet the special rapporteur and the Prime Minister alone have rejected an inquiry.
How can confidence and trust be restored in our democracy if the Prime Minister and government continue to defy the democratic will of this House?
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- Jun/7/23 2:41:20 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I agree entirely with the member opposite that this is a very serious situation we are facing. Unfortunately, the leader of the Conservative Party is not taking this seriously. The Conservatives are looking for occasions to make personal attacks and toxic partisan attacks instead of actually looking at the question of foreign interference at the level of responsibility necessary. If the Leader of the Opposition were serious about that, he would accept the top secret briefings from our intelligence agencies that explain the underpinnings of the conclusions in the Johnston report, and he would be able to weigh in responsibly.
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- Jun/7/23 2:42:04 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, yesterday, the Prime Minister's loyal rapporteur was asked to reconcile his conclusion that the spreading of disinformation in the 2021 election could not be attributed to the Beijing regime with the CSIS briefing to the former leader of the Conservative Party that said the opposite. The rapporteur said that he based his conclusion on evidence that he had at the time, evidence that was provided by the government.
Did the rapporteur ignore material evidence, or did the government withhold it from him? Which one is it?
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- Jun/7/23 2:42:40 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, that evidence is available to the Leader of the Opposition if only he were to accept a top secret briefing. He prefers to refuse it so he can continue his baseless personal attacks against an eminent Canadian.
Further than that, it is a panel of expert public service officials who determined, both in 2019 and in 2021, that election integrity held, a mechanism that this government put in place that previous governments never bothered with. That is how we know the integrity of the elections in 2019 and 2021 held.
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- Jun/7/23 2:43:22 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, a report of the government's rapid response mechanism identified that Beijing-controlled social media accounts were spreading disinformation in the 2021 election targeting the Conservative Party, including an account with 26 million followers, yet incredibly the rapporteur concluded otherwise. He ignored the report, ignored the evidence and instead whitewashed Beijing's interference.
The conclusions of the rapporteur have no credibility. Will the Prime Minister fire him and finally call an independent public inquiry?
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- Jun/7/23 2:43:59 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, these are the conclusions of the top public officials who had the task, during the 2021 and 2019 elections, to monitor the foreign interference that has been going on in this country for years and years, against which the former minister of elections for the Conservatives, the current leader, did nothing.
We established a protocol whereby the integrity of those elections was evaluated and reported on. That integrity held. If the Conservatives think the integrity of the elections did not hold in 2019 or 2021, let them say so.
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- Jun/7/23 2:44:46 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, like his good friend the Prime Minister, the loyal rapporteur turned a blind eye to important information in order to avoid recommending an independent public inquiry into the Beijing regime.
He did not see fit to question the Chief Electoral Officer. He did not question the member for Don Valley East. He did not consult the CSIS reports that were forwarded to the member for Durham. He did not read the CSIS reports that directly link Global Times, a disinformation newspaper, to the Chinese Communist Party. There was not a word about the police stations run by Beijing or the Trudeau Foundation.
Following this highly partisan demonstration, will the Prime Minister now announce an independent public inquiry?
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- Jun/7/23 2:45:27 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, all the Conservative Party wants to do is make personal attacks against the former governor general, who was chosen by Stephen Harper himself.
The Conservatives want to make partisan and political attacks to try and score points. However, the reality is that if they wanted to take the issue of interference seriously, which everyone should, they would agree to the top secret briefing that was offered to the Leader of the Opposition so that he could get to the bottom of what happened and understand why the former governor general reached these conclusions.
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- Jun/7/23 2:46:09 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, if the Prime Minister were serious, he would listen to the majority of members of the House.
Yesterday, David Johnston had one thing to do to convince Canadians, just one. He had to demonstrate, without a shadow of a doubt, that there is no conflict of interest between him and the Prime Minister. He failed miserably in that task by confirming, one after another, all of the perceived conflicts of interest that make it impossible for the House and Canadians to put their confidence in him.
When will the Prime Minister finally do the honourable thing? When will he put his friend, the former governor general, out of his misery and dismiss him from his position as independent special rapporteur?
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- Jun/7/23 2:46:51 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, as the newspapers recently explained, the best way to disrupt an investigation is to discredit the investigators. That is what the opposition party is trying to do.
The Conservatives did not write that playbook. They took it straight from Donald Trump. They are attacking the investigators because they do not want to talk about the serious findings of this report and investigation.
We should all expect the opposition party to take this seriously.
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- Jun/7/23 2:47:29 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, while the Prime Minister does more to protect Liberal government secrets and the Trudeau Foundation, he is not protecting the people with family still living under the Chinese regime, being oppressed by China as an intimidation tactic. These people have the right to security on Canadian and Quebec soil. He is not protecting them.
This morning, representatives from Taiwan, the Uyghur Autonomous Region, Hong Kong, Tibet and the Solomon Islands asked the Prime Minister for a public inquiry.
Will the Prime Minister act like a head of state and allow this public inquiry?
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- Jun/7/23 2:48:10 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we all know that the primary targets of Chinese interference are always the communities of the diaspora. That is why we are so adamant in our defence of these communities and we are including them in the decisions we are making.
I look forward to the former governor general doing his tour this summer to speak with these communities and to make recommendations to the government on the best way to continue to protect them.
Unfortunately, we have seen a rise in intolerance and racism since the pandemic. That is why we will continue to be there for these vulnerable persons.
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- Jun/7/23 2:48:50 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, it is not a diaspora, these people have been or are being conquered. I propose that he place the very dangerous file for Canada, democracy, the Liberal Party and the Prime Minister himself in the hands of a true independent commissioner.
I refuse to be part of any manoeuver that will keep his secret, that will not make available to the entire population all possible information, that will make those who have a right to security in Canada and Quebec fearful and unsafe, that abandons entire peoples to Beijing's oppression and that does not protect democracy in Quebec and in Canada.
Will the Prime Minister accept my proposal?
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- Jun/7/23 2:49:33 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the member knows very well that there are elements of national security that cannot be shared with the public. That is the reality of the world we live in. There are people, members of our armed forces and CSIS, who put their lives in danger to uncover the secrets of other countries and countries that wish us harm.
We offered top secret information to the leader of the Bloc Québécois so he could better understand what we cannot share in public, and he has refused and is choosing ignorance rather than the facts.
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- Jun/7/23 2:50:13 p.m.
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I would remind the hon. member for Lac-Saint-Jean that if he shouts in the direction of the hon. member for Beloeil—Chambly, he will not be able to hear the answer.
The hon. Leader of the Opposition.
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- Jun/7/23 2:50:28 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, asked by my associate, the finance shadow minister, if deficits had been smaller would inflation have been lower, the Bank of Canada governor answered yes. He also said inflation in Canada is increasingly reflecting what is happening in Canada. Former Liberal premier of Nova Scotia said that, on the inflation side, if governments both nationally and subnationally continue to spend beyond their means, spending to pay the credit card of the government of today, they are going to continue to have inflation that continues to increase.
If the Prime Minister will not believe me, will he at least believe his officials and his Liberal friends?
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- Jun/7/23 2:51:08 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I believe this is the first time we have heard the Leader of the Opposition even indirectly criticize provincial governments that are racking up significant spending, which is inflationary. On the federal side, we have been very cautious about targeting the measures so they are not contributing to inflation, even as we continue to support Canadians, families, seniors and workers with measures that, on top of that, the Leader of the Opposition is excited about filibustering and blocking tonight.
We are going to be there to help low-income workers, despite the Conservatives' political games.
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- Jun/7/23 2:51:50 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, it is not just the Governor of the Bank of Canada who says deficits contribute to inflation. It is not just the former Liberal deputy prime minister and finance minister John Manley saying that deficits contribute to inflation. It is his own finance minister and deputy prime minister. She said that deficits pour fuel on the inflationary fire. That is exactly what she did with this budget with $60 billion in additional inflation. That is $4,200 per family, which has now led to higher interest rates.
Will the Prime Minister announce a plan and a deadline to balance the budget to bring down inflation and interest rates?
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- Jun/7/23 2:52:34 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Bank of Canada is acting to bring down inflation, and it is working. Our inflation is coming down. At the same time, our job as a government is to be there to support Canadians, supports for families and supports for kids who need dental care. We will be there for supports for Canadians who are struggling right now. The Conservative approach is to cut programs, to cut supports for Canadians. At the same time, we are standing up to help Canadians through this difficult time and out the other side.
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