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44th Parl. 1st Sess.
June 7, 2023 02:00PM
  • Jun/7/23 7:57:14 p.m.
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Order. There is no time for debate here unless the member is being recognized. The hon. member for Outremont.
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  • Jun/7/23 7:57:22 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I thank the hon. member for his question. I believe, if I understood it correctly, he is talking about getting serious. I could not agree more. It is time to get serious. The member pretends that he does not know who is to blame for these wildfires. I will tell him. It is climate change. Climate change is to blame for these wildfires. What we have done is put forward a concrete plan. It is called climate action. Over the course of the last several months that the new Conservative leader has been in the chamber, he has consistently asked us to stop that climate action, to stop fighting climate change. We will not stop fighting climate change.
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  • Jun/7/23 7:58:06 p.m.
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I want to remind members that they have had an opportunity to ask a question. It is a not a free-for-all here. They have to wait to be asked. They have to wait for me to say “questions and comments” before they are recognized. I just want to let them know that they cannot continue to heckle or try to answer questions while someone else has the floor. Questions and Comments, the hon. member for Repentigny.
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  • Jun/7/23 7:58:35 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I listened carefully to my colleague's speech. She talked about the clean economy. That is great. That resonates with me. The government is going to create the Canada growth fund with a $15-billion capital investment. However, the Canada pension plan is the organization that is going to manage this fund. Wait a minute. The Canada pension plan is responsible for its own performance, its own investments. It is not really concerned with environmental issues. For instance, a large part of its portfolio is invested in oil stocks. We are told that the Canada growth fund will be used for hydrogen projects created from fossil fuels and for carbon capture and storage projects, which are the scam of the century. The government has fallen for it.
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  • Jun/7/23 7:59:29 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I thank my colleague from the Bloc Québécois. Our government is proposing to give an organization the mandate to create the clean economy of tomorrow. This mandate will have very clear instructions attached. We are in government and we have the power to do it. We will do this not only in Quebec, but across Canada. This will benefit all Quebeckers.
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  • Jun/7/23 8:00:00 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, the planet is on fire. I can smell the burning of the planet from my window in northern Ontario. It has been burning for days and days. We had an emergency debate the other night on fires, and not a single Conservative showed up. Obviously they do not care. My question is for the government. Over the last year, the environment minister proposed an increase of 109 million barrels of oil a day. The government has put over $30 billion into the TMX boondoggle to ship unrefined bitumen to other destinations. If the government is serious about climate change, when is it going to stop promoting the expansion of bitumen projects with the highest carbon intensities on the planet? As our planet burns, if we are going to be serious about a climate future, we have to stop the expansion of the oil lobby. When is the government going to stop working for the oil lobby and actually start working for Canadians?
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  • Jun/7/23 8:01:06 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, indeed, here in this House we can also smell the smoke from the wildfires. It comes right into this chamber. I hear my colleague when he says he can smell it where he is in northern Ontario. I, too, found it deplorable that not a single Conservative participated in the emergency debate on wildfires. Communities right across the country are being evacuated. Seven thousand Quebeckers were recently evacuated in Chibougamau. This is a very serious issue, and I believe that as elected officials, as parliamentarians, every single one of us should be concerned and every single one of us should have to speak to it.
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  • Jun/7/23 8:01:58 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, when the member for Timmins—James Bay asked his question moments ago—
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  • Jun/7/23 8:02:03 p.m.
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We have a point of order from the hon. member for Battle River—Crowfoot.
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  • Jun/7/23 8:02:07 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I found it very troubling that the previous two speakers referenced Conservatives not participating in a debate that we did, very clearly—
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  • Jun/7/23 8:02:16 p.m.
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This is a point of debate. The hon. parliamentary secretary to the government House leader.
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  • Jun/7/23 8:02:28 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, what I found deplorable was that when the member for Timmins—James Bay was asking his question and talking about how he could literally smell forest fires from where he was sitting in his community, Conservatives were just laughing. Somehow, Conservatives think that climate change is a partisan issue, but even their buddies in the Bloc do not agree with them on that. They take it seriously. I am wondering if the parliamentary secretary could comment on whether it is time to put partisanship aside when it comes to climate change. We can have debates about whether or not a policy is right or whether a different policy is the way to go, but what we should not be debating are the actual facts, the fact that climate change is real. Would the parliamentary secretary like to comment on that?
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  • Jun/7/23 8:03:23 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I do agree that this is a not a partisan issue and I regret very much that it has become one in the House. There was a time when Brian Mulroney, a friend of mine, was a leader, the then-prime minister of Canada, a Conservative prime minister. He brought forward important life-changing reforms in order to make our planet greener, in order to fight climate change. The Conservatives have changed since then. This new Conservative leader does not believe that climate change is something that we should act on. He does not believe that climate action is important. We disagree, and we will continue to fight climate change.
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  • Jun/7/23 8:04:09 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, there is one aspect of the budget on which I want to get clarification. In the fall economic statement, in the 2027-28 business year, the fall economic statement projected a $4.5-billion surplus. Only 140 days later, on March 28, the budget introduced a table for the same year that showed a $14-billion deficit, an $18.5-billion swing. I wonder if the member could give us some details as to why there was the change.
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  • Jun/7/23 8:04:47 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I appreciate my colleague opposite. I know him to be a learned member of the House. The simple fact is that a majority of Conservative Party members voted against climate action in the House. We know that the global environment has changed. There are challenges at the moment, but what the Conservatives are proposing are simply cuts. What the Conservatives are proposing are austerity measures, and as I mentioned in the speech—
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  • Jun/7/23 8:05:22 p.m.
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The hon. member for Edmonton—Wetaskiwin is rising on a point of order.
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  • Jun/7/23 8:05:26 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I believe the rules of the House dictate that when a question is asked, the hon. member answering the question should at least attempt to refer, in some way, to—
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  • Jun/7/23 8:05:36 p.m.
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This is a point of debate. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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  • Jun/7/23 8:05:42 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I find it ironic that the Conservatives are talking about answering questions. Several times, we have asked the Conservatives what they are proposing by way of economic policy or what they are proposing by way of climate policy, and the answer has been silence. It has been silence on the other side. They have no plan for the economy. They have no plan for our planet. They have no plan for our future.
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  • Jun/7/23 8:06:10 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I will be very brief. This whole charade is impressive. Everything that has happened since Friday has been things I did not want to see or hear, and I can say that because the Bloc is not looking to form government. It has been about partisanship, foreign interference, climate change and forest fires come early. However, when I go back to my riding, I see that seniors are being abandoned. Come on, what is going on? It is going to be a real show here tonight, right up until midnight. I want to talk about seniors exclusively. I want my colleague to explain why they were abandoned.
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