44th Parl. 1st Sess.
June 21, 2023 02:00PM
- Jun/22/23 12:08:50 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I agree to apply the results of the previous vote, voting in favour.
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- Jun/22/23 12:08:58 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I agree to apply and will be voting yes.
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- Jun/22/23 12:09:08 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I agree to apply the vote and will be voting in favour.
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- Jun/22/23 12:09:13 a.m.
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- Jun/22/23 12:09:19 a.m.
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I declare the motion carried.
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- Jun/22/23 12:09:38 a.m.
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Pursuant to an order made earlier today, the House will now proceed to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the appointment of Harriet Solloway as Public Sector Integrity Commissioner.
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- Jun/22/23 12:10:01 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I want to thank you, all the parliamentary staff and all my colleagues in the House, and, one last time, I believe if you seek it, you will find unanimous consent to apply the results of the previous vote to this vote, with Liberal members voting in favour.
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- Jun/22/23 12:10:31 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, again, for it seems the final time this evening, Conservatives agree to apply the vote and we are voting nay.
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- Jun/22/23 12:10:45 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Bloc Québécois agrees to apply the vote and will vote in favour.
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- Jun/22/23 12:10:53 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the NDP agrees to apply the vote and will be voting in favour.
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- Jun/22/23 12:11:02 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Green Party once again agrees to apply the vote and will vote in favour.
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- Jun/22/23 12:11:13 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I agree to apply the results of the previous vote, voting against.
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- Jun/22/23 12:11:33 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I agree to apply the vote and I vote in favour.
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- Jun/22/23 12:11:50 a.m.
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I declare the motion carried.
I wish all hon. members a wonderful summer break, and that they and their families enjoy themselves so that in September, they come back in full form.
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- Jun/22/23 12:13:09 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, my question, originally, was on the foundation Trudeau And a meeting that took place in the PMO. Apparently there was a wall with the Trudeau Foundation, And PMO was just a convenient downtown location.That is obvious nonsense and we will drill for the truth, Even with committee tactics that have been called uncouth. But it is late in the night and the session is near done, So I will suspend some outrage and try for some fun.Let us instead discuss the session that was, And get caught up on the latest buzz. There was foreign interference in our election, Which led to David Johnston's appointment, then ejection.The Minister of Public Safety has ignored foreign spies And covered his faults by selling white ties.There was markedly less discussion of vaccines and bugs, Though much more debate on the government giving away free drugs.This place has seen its fair share of wit, Even as government services are completely in need of substantial improvement.All of the taxes are going up in size, As spending and debt continues to rise.Canadians are living with more and more stress, While Liberals keep promising government largesse.But the money has to come from somewhere, you see, And a country only thrives when the people are free.Let us once again be a country flowing with milk and honeycomb, Because a Conservative government will be there to bring it home.While I am on my feet, since it is all the rage, I want to thank each hard-working Page, And to appreciate all those who work on the Hill. I am sure the experience has long lost its thrill.But for keeping us safe and bringing us food, And dealing with us when we are harried and rude, Thanks to the staff who make this place work, And transcribe our references to Churchill, Paine and Burke.It seems that our debates just get dumber and dumber, So let us get lost, go home and have a good summer.
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- Jun/22/23 12:15:18 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I will attempt to respond to the member's original question that he is raising about the meeting that occurred some seven years ago that was organized by the Privy Council office in a building occupied by the Privy Council office.
The member knows this, yet persists in repeating his false narrative about some purported conspiracy theory that involves the Prime Minister. There were no political officials at the meeting in question, and the member knows this well.
Why do I say that the member knows this? It is because the issue was the subject of a meeting of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts on June 12. Perhaps that is why he is now taking a more light-hearted approach to the question. At the meeting, where several retired deputy ministers and some current deputy ministers appeared, individuals had no concrete recollection of the subject matter of the meeting.
In fact, let me reference what a current deputy minister said at the meeting. Mr. Graham Flack said that he now serves in a completely different role than in the year of the meeting in question, and indicated that he recalled something discussed about pluralism.
I know it must be difficult for the member to realize that this wild goose chase yielded no geese. The fact is simple, there were no geese to chase in the first place. The matter the member is raising amounts to nothing more than a flawed assumption about a meeting that occurred seven years ago, which nobody who attended seemed to recall anything of substance about.
Sometimes when one scrapes the bottom of the barrel, they have to realize that there is nothing to be found. I do credit the member for his obstinance to keep scraping away. There have been numerous meetings on this issue. Numerous witnesses have appeared, and the member has nothing of substance to show for it. The only conclusion to draw is that there is nothing untoward to be found.
There was a meeting seven years ago. There was an access to information request that stated something about the foundation in question. Only a genius could contrive a controversy where there is none, but perhaps not a genius. I will leave that to members to make their own determination on. To the extent of the logic that the member is making, any meeting that happens in the Justice Building, for example, on the parliamentary precinct, must have been attended by the Minister of Justice.
The member keeps scraping and scraping, and is left in the dark of the night with nothing to grasp at. I salute the member for his persistence on the matter.
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- Jun/22/23 12:18:03 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker,
Just as I conclude this late show, I will remind the member that the meeting was in PMO.The PS thinks that his response is a zing,That those at the meeting don't remember a thing.On a serious subject we can be a bit funny,It's clear the government's ways are anything but sunny.
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- Jun/22/23 12:18:28 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, yes, a meeting happened in the PMO, but for some reason the opposition, and this member particularly, assume that just because a meeting happened in a building that is the Prime Minister's Office, he was there. It is a wild assumption to jump to the conclusion that the Prime Minister must have been there himself. It goes without saying, and I think all members know this, that we are really beating a dead horse, so I will leave that one.
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- Jun/22/23 12:19:03 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to have the opportunity tonight to voice my opposition to the proposal to close down the RCMP training depot in Regina, Saskatchewan, as was recommended in the Mass Casualty Commission report.
Thousands of Canadians die every year from medical malpractice, but when someone dies because the doctor in the emergency room made an incorrect split-second decision, we do not shut down the medical school where the doctor studied 20 years ago. Why would we do that with a police academy?
That is the analogy an RCMP trainer made when I visited and toured Depot last month. One could say that it does not make sense to throw the baby out with the bathwater or reinvent the wheel. Whatever expression we choose, the conclusion remains the same: The RCMP training depot in Regina, Saskatchewan, is a world-class police training facility and should not be made a scapegoat for the events that transpired in Nova Scotia three years ago.
To be clear, the Mass Casualty Commission has done a lot of good work and made some very reasonable recommendations. It makes sense that people should not be able to buy an RCMP cruiser at auction, that people should not be able to buy an RCMP officer’s uniform on eBay and that a public alert system should be activated whenever there is an active shooter situation in progress.
Last month, I was pleased to see that the Public Safety Minister had appointed a chair of the committee responsible for implementing the recommendations of the Mass Casualty Commission. However, when asked by reporters about Depot, I was concerned when the Public Safety Minister answered that he was keeping an open mind about which recommendations would and would not be implemented. I had hoped that the minister would use that opportunity to clarify that the RCMP training depot in Regina would not be shut down. Regrettably, he did not do so.
What I disagree with very strongly is the idea that the physical location of Depot in Regina, Saskatchewan, is somehow a problem that needs to be corrected. When I visited Depot last month, I had the opportunity to visit with the management, the staff and the cadets. Despite my best efforts, I could not find a single person who was ever consulted by the Mass Casualty Commission about cadet training. That is why the recommendation to close Depot came as such a shock to everyone.
If there are improvements that need to be made to the training of RCMP cadets, those improvements can and should be made at the existing location in Regina. It is not just me who is saying that; this same position has been articulated by the member for Regina—Qu'Appelle and the member for Regina—Lewvan. Similar statements have been made by the mayor of Regina, Sandra Masters; the premier of Saskatchewan, Scott Moe; and Saskatchewan’s NDP official opposition leader, Carla Beck.
The Regina community is united in wanting to keep this 150-year-old institution at its current location. I ask the Prime Minister, the Minister of Public Safety or the parliamentary secretary to put people’s minds at ease and commit to not shutting down the RCMP training depot in Regina, Saskatchewan.
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