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House Hansard - 254

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
November 23, 2023 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 254 - Nov/23/23
Mr. Luc Berthold
  • Nov/23/23 8:04:04 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I think my colleague's message was very clear, yet the first thing my NDP colleague did was carry on with his insinuations and disinformation about the deeper reasons why the Conservative Party voted against an agreement imposed on Ukraine when it was in a position of weakness.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Nov/23/23 8:04:30 p.m.
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I believe that is a matter of debate again. Relevance is important when we debate. I have called for a little relevance. The hon. member for New Westminster—Burnaby.
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Mr. Peter Julian
  • Nov/23/23 8:04:49 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I mean no disrespect by remaining standing. Unfortunately I toppled over my water glass, so my seat is wet. That is why I am not sitting down. I do want to respond to my colleague. Disinformation is the Leader of the Opposition standing in this House and announcing a terrorist attack because he saw on the Fox propaganda network that—
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Nov/23/23 8:05:13 p.m.
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The hon. member for Mégantic—L'Érable on a point of order again.
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Mr. Luc Berthold
  • Nov/23/23 8:05:26 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, for the third time, I would urge my colleague to ensure his comments are germane. He is currently using his right to speak to spread more disinformation. I urge him to keep things relevant.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Nov/23/23 8:05:43 p.m.
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Once again, this is a matter of debate, but relevance is very important to the discussion. The hon. member for New Westminster—Burnaby has three minutes to finish his speech.
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Mr. Peter Julian
  • Nov/23/23 8:05:54 p.m.
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Indeed, Mr. Speaker, I think that the member for Carleton should apologize for making comments that fuelled disinformation—
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Nov/23/23 8:06:09 p.m.
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We have another point of order from the hon. member for Mégantic—L'Érable.
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Mr. Luc Berthold
  • Nov/23/23 8:06:14 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I will be brief. I make a plea for relevance.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Nov/23/23 8:06:17 p.m.
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This is the fourth time I have asked for relevance. Let us get to the crux of the issue, because I think we all want to get to the next part. The hon. member for New Westminster—Burnaby.
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Mr. Peter Julian
  • Nov/23/23 8:06:32 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Conservatives are in an awkward position. It is up to them to manage that—
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Nov/23/23 8:06:40 p.m.
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We have a point of order from the hon. member for South Shore—St. Margarets.
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Mr. Rick Perkins
  • Nov/23/23 8:06:46 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the member for New Westminster—Burnaby seems to have trouble with relevance and is acting like a Russian disinformation officer, which he generally is in the House. I would urge him to stick somewhere close to the truth.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Nov/23/23 8:07:01 p.m.
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I want to thank the member for South Shore—St. Margarets for bringing that up. That is, again, mostly debate, but I know the hon. member was just finishing up his speech on the issue at hand. The hon. member for New Westminster—Burnaby.
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Mr. Peter Julian
  • Nov/23/23 8:07:19 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-56 
Mr. Speaker, I have just three words to conclude: He should know. In terms of Bill C-56 and Motion No. 30, the important thing for Conservatives to remember is that, rather than blocking this bill, which is what they have been trying to do, they should be looking to support it. They say they are concerned about affordable housing. Their record shows the contrary; they have a deplorable record on affordable housing. However, if they really believe in ensuring there is more construction in this country of affordable housing, they should be supporting this bill, which, of course, has been inspired and pushed by the NDP. Like many of the other good things that have happened in this Parliament, it is because of the member for Burnaby South and a very dedicated NDP caucus that this is happening. Canadians should have more consumer protection, and more weight should be given to the Competition Bureau to crack down on the food price gouging we have seen from corporate CEOs, the gas price gouging we have seen from the very profitable oil and gas sector, with profits of over $38 billion last year, and all of the other ways that Canadians are being gouged, like through cellphones and Internet, which Canadians are paying the highest fees in the world for. If the Conservatives truly believe in that, they should be supporting this motion, which would enhance the Competition Bureau and would ensure that Canadians finally get some protection. For 17 years, Conservatives and Liberals have not protected consumers at all in this country, and the NDP and the member for Burnaby South are standing up and saying that enough is enough. They need to make sure we have protection for consumers in this country. That is what the NDP is fighting for. If Conservatives really believe in all the things they have been saying, they can make up for their past track record, which is absolutely deplorable, and vote for the motion and the bill. We are not going to stop fighting for Canadians. The 25 members of the NDP caucus have had a huge weight in pushing the government to do the right thing. We are very proud of our record. We expect all members of Parliament to adopt the bill and adopt the motion. Then, of course, we will move on to anti-scab legislation that all members of Parliament should be supporting as well.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Nov/23/23 8:10:06 p.m.
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It being 8:10 p.m., pursuant to order made earlier today, it is my duty to interrupt the proceedings and put forthwith every question necessary to dispose of Motion No. 30 under Government Business, which is now before the House. The question is on the amendment. If a member participating in person wishes that the amendment be carried or carried on division, or if a member of a recognized party participating in person wishes to request a recorded division, I invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair.
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Mr. Chris Bittle
  • Nov/23/23 8:11:08 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we request a recorded division.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Nov/23/23 8:11:13 p.m.
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Call in the members. Before the taking of the vote:
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Mr. Luc Berthold
  • Nov/23/23 8:42:48 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. We all learned a few minutes ago that there have been problems with the voting application for members participating remotely. As we can see, many members are participating remotely. I would therefore like to seek the unanimous consent of the House to adopt on division the amendment moved by the Conservatives and, subsequently, to adopt on division the motion as amended by the Conservative amendment.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Nov/23/23 8:43:14 p.m.
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All those opposed to the hon. member's moving the motion will please say nay. Some hon. members: Nay.
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