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44th Parl. 1st Sess.
November 23, 2023 10:00AM
  • Nov/23/23 8:11:13 p.m.
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Call in the members. Before the taking of the vote:
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  • Nov/23/23 8:42:48 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. We all learned a few minutes ago that there have been problems with the voting application for members participating remotely. As we can see, many members are participating remotely. I would therefore like to seek the unanimous consent of the House to adopt on division the amendment moved by the Conservatives and, subsequently, to adopt on division the motion as amended by the Conservative amendment.
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  • Nov/23/23 8:43:14 p.m.
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All those opposed to the hon. member's moving the motion will please say nay. Some hon. members: Nay.
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  • Nov/23/23 8:59:55 p.m.
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I declare the amendment defeated. The next question is on the main motion. If a member participating in person wishes that the motion be carried or carried on division or if a member of a recognized party participating in person wishes to request a recorded division, I would invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair.
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  • Nov/23/23 9:01:01 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I request a recorded division.
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  • Nov/23/23 9:14:43 p.m.
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I declare the motion carried.
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  • Nov/23/23 9:15:18 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-56 
Mr. Speaker, before I begin, I would like to say that I am sharing my time with the hon. member for Don Valley East. We are here today to talk about Bill C-56. This bill, unfortunately, has been delayed by the Conservatives, time after time. We have seen their obstructionist policies throughout this Parliament, but specifically on this bill, which would bring relief to Canadians. It is interesting to watch. I have been sitting here for a while, listening to speeches. The argument from the Conservatives is that they did not have enough time to debate this piece of legislation. At the same time, when they have gotten up, none of the members have actually talked about the legislation. They have not talked about what is going on. They talk about the carbon tax or whatever else it is they are interested in, except what is going in the bill. It is fascinating. It is a sign of a sure filibuster that the Conservatives do not want to talk about this, because they know it is beneficial and it would help Canadians. They know it would get housing built, especially in eliminating the GST on purpose-built rentals. We are already seeing the benefits. We are already seeing developers across Canada switching their construction to purpose-built rentals, because they know this is coming. We need to build more housing in this country. There is this mythical 45 minutes a day during question period when the Conservatives pretend to care about getting housing built and the concerns of Canadians. They churn out slogans and repeat them, repeat them, repeat them, repeat them. Did I do that four times? Clearly, as they are shouting at me about the carbon tax again, the only environmental plan the Conservatives have is recycling slogans. They are so obsessed with it that they would vote against Ukraine in a time of war, even though Ukraine already has a price on pollution. The Conservatives would abandon Ukraine during war, when Ukraine asked us to pass that legislation. The Conservatives are yelling about a price on pollution. They are clearly eager about that. It is getting under their skin, because they are hearing from their constituents, who expected the Conservative Party to stand up for the Ukrainian people. They are yelling. They cannot handle it. They cannot take the heat on this file. The hon. member from Newfoundland cannot handle it, that his constituents expect him to stand up for— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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  • Nov/23/23 9:18:42 p.m.
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Order, order. We just had a great vote, and everything went really well, I thought. Let us continue that collegiality on this. The hon. parliamentary secretary has the floor.
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  • Nov/23/23 9:19:03 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, since this is time allocated, I am happy to be up here as long as they want me to be, through points of order. I am happy to be here until 11 o'clock or whenever the next series of votes happens. The hon. member from Newfoundland, from the Conservative Party, was and still is yelling at the top of his lungs. I guess it is his first day here. He does not know that it is not his turn. He is from the island of Newfoundland. He is from the province of Newfoundland and Labrador—
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  • Nov/23/23 9:19:41 p.m.
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When it is time for questions and comments, I will put the hon. member for Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame up first. I will make sure he gets an opportunity to ask the hon. member a question. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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  • Nov/23/23 9:19:54 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, to be clear, I am sure the member for Avalon will back me up on this. It is the province of Newfoundland and Labrador, but I believe the hon. member is from the Island of Newfoundland proper. I am sure he will yell out something a little later. Clearly, the embarrassment is real for what the Conservatives have done and how they have betrayed Ukraine. It is absolutely shameful. An hon. member: Oh, oh! Mr. Chris Bittle: That is a good point from my colleague, Mr. Speaker, that MAGA politics are making their way into the Conservative Party. It is an embarrassment. Some hon. members: Oh, oh! Mr. Chris Bittle: Mr. Speaker, I am happy to respond to all the comments. I was going to move on, but it is clear that the Conservative Party is getting upset any time we mention Ukraine. We cannot mention Ukraine, because they are going to get—
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  • Nov/23/23 9:20:51 p.m.
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We have a point of order from the hon. member for Calgary Rocky Ridge.
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  • Nov/23/23 9:20:55 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, it is a rule in the House that we address the matter at hand, which is the bill up for debate. I would ask you to bring this member to order. We have had enough of this nonsense. He is spreading misinformation, which is not unlike what we see coming out of the Kremlin. I would like him to bring it back to the matter at hand.
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  • Nov/23/23 9:21:19 p.m.
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We should all try to stick to the bill we are debating. We are later in the day than normal, so maybe people are getting tired.
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  • Nov/23/23 9:21:34 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. We are not allowed, according to the government's Speaker in the chair, to do something indirectly that we cannot do directly. This has happened over and over today, and now this speaker is challenging my Canadian-Ukrainian heritage on this side of the floor, as though somehow, because I made a choice in the House to vote a different way than he did, he has the right to stand here to challenge— Mr. Chris Bittle: Speak through the Speaker and not to me. Mrs. Cathay Wagantall: I said “he”. Mr. Speaker, he is challenging my heritage. My grandfather came to this country just before the Holodomor took place. I would encourage him to get off of his rant—
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  • Nov/23/23 9:22:27 p.m.
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I want to shut this down as soon as I possibly can because I want to get on with the orders of the day.
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  • Nov/23/23 9:22:37 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, on the same point of order, I listened very attentively, and there was no challenge to the member's heritage. There was a challenge of her vote, and that is something that she—
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  • Nov/23/23 9:22:48 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-56 
I thank the hon. member for his intervention. I will say that members should be judicious in their discussions here tonight and stick to the debate on Bill C-56 as it is before us. If there were fewer attempts to create a diversion in the House, that would be wonderful. The hon. member for St. Catharines.
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  • Nov/23/23 9:23:17 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, it is funny because I have been sitting here all afternoon and not one Conservative member has actually talked about what is in the bill. Not one of them has, yet any point— An hon. member: Oh, oh! Mr. Chris Bittle: Mr. Speaker, I am responding to their heckles, and the hon. member for Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner is screaming at the top of his lungs because he does not want me to—
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  • Nov/23/23 9:23:43 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. It is a common practice of the House to allow members to withdraw a comment when they make misleading or false statements. The member said that no Conservative had addressed this bill in debate today. That is untrue. The member for Prince Albert addressed it quite well in his speech not that long ago. I invite the member to withdraw his comment and apologize for misleading the House.
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