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House Hansard - 261

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 4, 2023 11:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 261 - Dec/4/23
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/4/23 6:42:57 p.m.
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The hon. member knows full well that he can raise a point of order at any time, as well. I have asked him to withdraw the comment, and I would ask him to, please, respectfully withdraw the comment.
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Hon. Bardish Chagger
  • Dec/4/23 6:43:28 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I just want to say that, as somebody who is on this side, hearing the conversation, first of all, as you were speaking, there are members from the other side who are basically intimidating the member to stop him from speaking. The comments that were shared, and the tone in which they came, were inappropriate. The last time the opposition House leader came running out, just to make sure he was interrupted. Time and time again, whether it is in committee or in this House, we see Conservatives stand up any time that member speaks. That is harassment. That is bullying at its best. It should not be tolerated in this House.
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Mr. Jeremy Patzer
  • Dec/4/23 6:44:23 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, on that very point of order, the hon. member for Timmins—James Bay was warned multiple times in committee to watch the language that he was using because of what he was alleging was going on. He has been subbed out of this committee for the last three meetings because of his misogynistic behaviour, and the fact that it was the week—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/4/23 6:44:44 p.m.
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Members on both sides of the House are getting to a point where I will have to ask everyone to withdraw their statements. I have asked the hon. member for Timmins—James Bay to withdraw his statement. If he does not wish to do so, I will resume debate with another speaker. The hon. member for Timmins—James Bay.
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Mr. Charlie Angus
  • Dec/4/23 6:45:05 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, someone asked me to step out and I am being intimidated. I will not be intimidated. You can have me removed if you want, but I will speak for my right to be heard. Every time I speak, I am shut down by Conservatives.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/4/23 6:45:25 p.m.
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We have another point of order, from the hon. member for Calgary Forest Lawn.
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Mr. Jasraj Singh Hallan
  • Dec/4/23 6:45:28 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, you have asked more than seven or eight times for the member to withdraw his comments. This fake feminist refuses to sit down. Now I am being shouted down. Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/4/23 6:45:51 p.m.
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Order. This is the last time I will ask the hon. member for Timmins—James Bay to withdraw his comment. If he does not wish to do so, I will resume debate with the next speaker.
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Mr. Charlie Angus
  • Dec/4/23 6:46:18 p.m.
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Is calling me a fake feminist okay, Madam Speaker? You can have me removed.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/4/23 6:46:23 p.m.
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If the hon. member does not want to withdraw his comment, I will go to the next speaker. I would also ask the hon. member for Calgary Forest Lawn, who made a comment about misogyny, to withdraw it.
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Mr. Jasraj Singh Hallan
  • Dec/4/23 6:46:42 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I will withdraw my comment of “fake feminist”, but I stand by everything else.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/4/23 6:46:46 p.m.
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I am sorry. It was the member for Cypress Hills—Grasslands. That is not acceptable, and I would ask members to be civil and respectful in the House. The hon. member for Cypress Hills—Grasslands.
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Mr. Jeremy Patzer
  • Dec/4/23 6:47:18 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I withdraw my statement since it caused disorder in the House.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/4/23 6:47:25 p.m.
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It is not about whether it caused disorder in the House. It is not acceptable to say. The hon. deputy House leader has a point of order.
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Mr. Mark Gerretsen
  • Dec/4/23 6:47:41 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, the whole point to having proper decorum that is not unparliamentary is so that if somebody says something and— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/4/23 6:47:51 p.m.
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Other members are talking while someone has the floor. I would ask them to please be respectful. The hon. deputy House leader.
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Mr. Mark Gerretsen
  • Dec/4/23 6:48:01 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, when somebody withdraws a comment because they self-reflected on it, it has to come from an acceptance that it is not parliamentary. A member does not withdraw a comment just because it— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/4/23 6:48:23 p.m.
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The hon. members for Calgary Forest Lawn and Lakeland will come to order. I would ask members to please be respectful. Maybe members should look at the rules of order and realize that they are all responsible for decorum and for the business of the House to continue. The hon. deputy House leader did not finish his comments.
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Mr. Mark Gerretsen
  • Dec/4/23 6:48:52 p.m.
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As I was trying to say, Madam Speaker, when you are asking a member to withdraw a comment and they withdraw it, it should be based on their acceptance that you have ruled it as unparliamentary, not because they think it caused a disturbance and therefore they should be doing it.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Dec/4/23 6:49:07 p.m.
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There is still feedback from the hon. members I have already mentioned. I am not sure what the issue is, but they should all wait until they are recognized. The hon. member for Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner is also rising on a point of order.
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