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44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 4, 2023 11:00AM
  • Dec/4/23 6:44:44 p.m.
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Members on both sides of the House are getting to a point where I will have to ask everyone to withdraw their statements. I have asked the hon. member for Timmins—James Bay to withdraw his statement. If he does not wish to do so, I will resume debate with another speaker. The hon. member for Timmins—James Bay.
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  • Dec/4/23 6:45:05 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, someone asked me to step out and I am being intimidated. I will not be intimidated. You can have me removed if you want, but I will speak for my right to be heard. Every time I speak, I am shut down by Conservatives.
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  • Dec/4/23 6:45:25 p.m.
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We have another point of order, from the hon. member for Calgary Forest Lawn.
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  • Dec/4/23 6:45:28 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, you have asked more than seven or eight times for the member to withdraw his comments. This fake feminist refuses to sit down. Now I am being shouted down. Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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  • Dec/4/23 6:45:51 p.m.
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Order. This is the last time I will ask the hon. member for Timmins—James Bay to withdraw his comment. If he does not wish to do so, I will resume debate with the next speaker.
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  • Dec/4/23 6:46:18 p.m.
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Is calling me a fake feminist okay, Madam Speaker? You can have me removed.
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  • Dec/4/23 6:46:23 p.m.
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If the hon. member does not want to withdraw his comment, I will go to the next speaker. I would also ask the hon. member for Calgary Forest Lawn, who made a comment about misogyny, to withdraw it.
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  • Dec/4/23 6:46:42 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I will withdraw my comment of “fake feminist”, but I stand by everything else.
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  • Dec/4/23 6:46:46 p.m.
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I am sorry. It was the member for Cypress Hills—Grasslands. That is not acceptable, and I would ask members to be civil and respectful in the House. The hon. member for Cypress Hills—Grasslands.
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  • Dec/4/23 6:47:18 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I withdraw my statement since it caused disorder in the House.
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  • Dec/4/23 6:47:25 p.m.
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It is not about whether it caused disorder in the House. It is not acceptable to say. The hon. deputy House leader has a point of order.
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  • Dec/4/23 6:47:41 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, the whole point to having proper decorum that is not unparliamentary is so that if somebody says something and— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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  • Dec/4/23 6:47:51 p.m.
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Other members are talking while someone has the floor. I would ask them to please be respectful. The hon. deputy House leader.
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  • Dec/4/23 6:48:01 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, when somebody withdraws a comment because they self-reflected on it, it has to come from an acceptance that it is not parliamentary. A member does not withdraw a comment just because it— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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  • Dec/4/23 6:48:23 p.m.
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The hon. members for Calgary Forest Lawn and Lakeland will come to order. I would ask members to please be respectful. Maybe members should look at the rules of order and realize that they are all responsible for decorum and for the business of the House to continue. The hon. deputy House leader did not finish his comments.
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  • Dec/4/23 6:48:52 p.m.
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As I was trying to say, Madam Speaker, when you are asking a member to withdraw a comment and they withdraw it, it should be based on their acceptance that you have ruled it as unparliamentary, not because they think it caused a disturbance and therefore they should be doing it.
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  • Dec/4/23 6:49:07 p.m.
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There is still feedback from the hon. members I have already mentioned. I am not sure what the issue is, but they should all wait until they are recognized. The hon. member for Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner is also rising on a point of order.
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  • Dec/4/23 6:49:21 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, it was very clear in the House moments ago that the member for Timmins—James Bay not only disrespected you but is challenging the Chair. He should be named and dealt with accordingly.
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  • Dec/4/23 6:49:36 p.m.
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From what I have seen, more members than just the hon. member for Timmins—James Bay have been challenging the Chair or have not responded appropriately to what the Chair is asking. I would ask members to please be respectful. There is another point of order by the hon. member for Timmins—James Bay.
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  • Dec/4/23 6:49:54 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, you said that I was challenging the Chair. What I said is that when someone tells me to step outside, I have a right to be in here. If you choose, Madam Speaker, that I am not allowed to speak for defending my right to speak in here, then you can make that decision, I am not challenging it, but the issue you are putting before the House is my inability to speak in the House because of intimidation from Conservatives. I will always defend my right to speak in the House. You can have me removed any time, Madam Speaker. I am not challenging your authority to have me removed, but it is my right to speak against intimidation.
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