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House Hansard - 262

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 5, 2023 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 262 - Dec/5/23
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/5/23 1:54:37 p.m.
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We are not going to start a debate on this. I am going to let the hon. member finish his speech.
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Mr. Damien Kurek
  • Dec/5/23 1:54:43 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. The government House leader was warned about some of the absurd comparisons the Liberals are making regarding the issue. I would encourage you to remind the member not to allow his comments to devolve into the absurdity that she allowed herself to the other day during debate.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/5/23 1:55:00 p.m.
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We are going to try to finish this before the beginning of Oral Questions. The hon. deputy House leader.
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Mr. Mark Gerretsen
  • Dec/5/23 1:55:07 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, talk about walking on eggshells. I have not even gotten to that point yet. The member is trying to predict where I am going in my speech and is rising on a point of order pre-emptively because he is afraid I am going to make a comparison between the approach of Russia and the approach of the Conservative Party of Canada. I have not even gotten to that yet. All I said was that the member was afraid I would do that. I did not even actually make the comparison.
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Mr. Arpan Khanna
  • Dec/5/23 1:55:46 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, on a point of order, the comments coming from the member are absolutely ridiculous— The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès): I warned the member. Mr. Arpan Khanna: Those comparisons are beneath this office. I understand he is going to lose his seat. There is a Tory gain happening in Kingston, but—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/5/23 1:55:55 p.m.
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Can we stop with the accusations and try to remain focused on the bill we are discussing at the moment?
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Mr. Mark Gerretsen
  • Dec/5/23 1:56:03 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I can tell we are in a position that makes the Conservatives feel very uncomfortable. Are we not? That is quite obvious based on what is going on from that side of the House. However, I can focus my entire comments on the particular action that the Conservatives are doing right now. The measures in the bill are ones that the finance minister introduced in September. They are measures that the Conservatives voted in favour of at the time to send the bill to committee, but they still are in a position now where they are not even willing to let it move on. We had to get to the point where we had to program the bill because they are not interested in actually getting supports for Canadians, and they never have been as long as the current government has been around. All the Conservatives have been interested in are delay tactics and trying to prevent, in every possible way that they can, pieces of legislation from going forward, just to prevent the government from doing anything. The Conservatives are not even doing what they should be doing in the House, which is to try to hold the government accountable.
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Mr. Damien Kurek
  • Dec/5/23 1:57:23 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. It would bear mentioning that they cannot do indirectly what they are not allowed to do directly. Certainly, the many accusations that are being made in the somewhat indirect way that the member is impugning the integrity of—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/5/23 1:57:39 p.m.
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The hon. member is debating the bill in question, and I am going to let him finish. The hon. deputy House leader.
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Mr. Mark Gerretsen
  • Dec/5/23 1:57:45 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, maybe the member can familiarize himself with the rules so the next time he stands up he can actually reference what it is that I did that was against the rules, because he is not even doing that. He is just calling a point of order so he can ramble incoherently. The reality is that the bill—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/5/23 1:58:04 p.m.
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The hon. member for Peterborough—Kawartha has a point of order.
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Ms. Michelle Ferreri
  • Dec/5/23 1:58:07 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I would ask for unanimous consent. These are the points of order that the member for Kingston and the Islands has called, just in this session of Parliament alone— Some hon. members: No.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/5/23 1:58:20 p.m.
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The hon. member for Kingston and the Islands.
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Mr. Mark Gerretsen
  • Dec/5/23 1:58:24 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, actually, could the member bring those to me? I feel so incredibly proud to represent a community and be able to tell constituents that I have stood up on their behalf so many times in the House of Commons. If the member would like to perhaps do a joint householder with me for our communities, to compare how many times I have stood up versus how many times she has stood up, it would be a great opportunity for us to celebrate how we are able to represent our constituents. I get a kick out of it every time when Conservatives stand up and say that so-and-so has spoken so many times—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/5/23 1:58:58 p.m.
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The hon. member for Peterborough—Kawartha is rising on a point of order.
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Ms. Michelle Ferreri
  • Dec/5/23 1:59:01 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, it sounds like the member opposite would love it if I tabled this, so again I will ask for unanimous consent— Some hon. members: No.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/5/23 1:59:07 p.m.
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I imagine the hon. member would like to receive the document hand to hand. The hon. member for Kingston and the Islands.
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Mr. Mark Gerretsen
  • Dec/5/23 1:59:16 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I am pretty sure I heard some of the member's own colleagues yell “no” there. It really comes down to a bill that has substantive measures in it for Canadians. It is a bill that Conservatives voted to send to committee. It is a bill that the whole House seems to be supportive of in terms of the measures contained within it. Even the Conservatives know better than to try to vote against this one, so what do they do? They put absolutely every delay tactic possible in place to prevent the bill from actually moving forward and getting supports to Canadians. This way, the Conservatives can say they were supportive of it the whole time, even though they allowed absolutely no efforts to actually get it through the process. Once again, we are now in a position where we have had to program this—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès)
  • Dec/5/23 2:00:03 p.m.
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The hon. member will be able to finish his speech after Oral Questions.
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Mr. Francis Scarpaleggia (Lac-Saint-Louis, Lib.)
  • Dec/5/23 2:00:17 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, President Zelenskyy gets it, the Prime Minister gets it, the countries of the European Union get it and Milton Friedman got it. A price on carbon is not just good environmental policy that will be responsible for up to one-third of Canada's emission reductions by 2030, but it is also good trade policy, especially for a trading nation such as Canada. All member states of the European Union are part of the EU emissions trading system. Ukraine prices carbon too, because it wants to integrate into the EU market. The EU is implementing its carbon border adjustment tariff, which will penalize goods from countries that do not price carbon. Why does the Leader of the Opposition want to shut Canadian companies out of the European market? Where is the common sense in that? Why does the Leader of the Opposition not get it? Canadians get it. They get that he is just not worth the risk.
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