44th Parl. 1st Sess.
January 30, 2024 10:00AM
- Jan/30/24 10:27:08 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the next petition that I will table highlights the issue of euthanasia, or medical assistance in dying, and a particular proposal to extend this to children. In a context where we see continuous radical proposals for the expansion of an already deeply troubled system, petitioners are concerned about a proposal from one witness before a committee to expand euthanasia to include babies from birth to one year of age who come into the world with severe deformities and very serious syndromes.
Petitioners underline their view that infanticide is always wrong, and they call on the Government of Canada to block any attempt to legalize the killing of children in any situation for any reason.
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- Jan/30/24 10:28:00 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I am rising on a point of order. I want to come back to the unparliamentary comments made by the member for Battle River—Crowfoot. My colleague from Timmins—James Bay addressed that a few minutes ago.
I want to cite a ruling from December 12. As you know, Mr. Speaker, the member for Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies also attempted to do the same thing and, in an unparliamentary way, tried to mislead the House and mislead Canadians. At the time, Mr. Speaker, you will recall the ruling was that the attempt by the member for Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies was not permissible and that the member should rise and apologize. Therefore, I believe you should ask the member for Battle River—Crowfoot to apologize for his unparliamentary use of the Petitions sector and for misleading the House.
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- Jan/30/24 10:29:33 a.m.
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I would like to thank the hon. member for New Westminster—Burnaby for raising this point and reminding the Chair of a similar ruling in the past. It is a new year and it is the second day we are back, so it is a little rusty in terms of the application and use. However, I do understand, agree with and affirm the statement, which was the decision made by the Chair. I see that the member for Battle River—Crowfoot is on his feet, and I hope he will be able to put this issue to rest.
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- Jan/30/24 10:30:03 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I appreciate the opportunity to highlight that, very specifically, the statement I made during petitions did not politicize—
Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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- Jan/30/24 10:30:18 a.m.
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Before I go to the point of order, I am just going to take a minute.
I am going to ask the hon. member for Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies for order.
Mr. Kurek is rising on a point of order. I am going to go to the point of order raised by the member for New Westminster—Burnaby, but I am hoping that Mr. Kurek—
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- Jan/30/24 10:31:16 a.m.
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I have been named before.
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- Jan/30/24 10:31:20 a.m.
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I apologize. I should not mention a member's name. There is no intention to name him at this point, and I hope there will never be an opportunity to do so. The member is an hon. member, and I am hoping that he can help us restore order to the House, so I will ask the hon. member to please continue with his statement, but very briefly.
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- Jan/30/24 10:31:39 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I intentionally did not politicize the content of the statement, but rather highlighted the fact that there was a particular member of this place who did refuse to present that petition when given the opportunity in the past. I ask that my word be allowed to stand, because it simply is the truth, and I intentionally did not politicize what those petitioners from—
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- Jan/30/24 10:32:09 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. The rules of this House are quite clear. You have asked the member to apologize. He has refused. He should not be recognized in this House until he apologizes.
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- Jan/30/24 10:32:21 a.m.
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I am just a little rusty. I did not ask the member to apologize. I did ask him to stand up to express, and I was hoping he would do so voluntarily. There was a ruling on December 12 of last year.
To ensure consistency with that decision, I would ask the hon. member to withdraw comments he made that could upset the House and apologize at all costs.
The hon. member for Battle River—Crowfoot.
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- Jan/30/24 10:32:54 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I would ask for clarification on the ruling before I stand and apologize for something. I believe I did nothing wrong.
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- Jan/30/24 10:33:39 a.m.
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I am going to ask once again for the member for Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, who was asked to apologize, to be consistent with the ruling of this Chair, because when members present petitions there should be no comment aside from the substance of the petition. To mention whether another hon. member presented it or did not, for whatever reason, it should stand as it is. Before we go to points of order, I will ask the hon. member for Battle River—Crowfoot to be consistent with this, to start the new year right and, please, to briefly apologize and withdraw those comments. In presenting petitions in the future, all members should just focus on the substance of the petitions and not make comments as to other issues.
I will ask the hon. member for Battle River—Crowfoot to please stand.
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- Jan/30/24 10:34:41 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I will not apologize for standing up for the people of this country. They are not being—
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- Jan/30/24 10:35:00 a.m.
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Until the member does rise to apologize, the Chair will not be recognizing the member.
The hon. member for Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies is rising on a point of order.
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- Jan/30/24 10:35:07 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, just for clarity, this precedent was supposedly set because of what I apologized for. I said at the time that if I did something wrong, then I will apologize, I guess. It still was not clear whether I had broken any rules. However, I said I will never apologize for representing the people of Skeena—Bulkley Valley. That is exactly what I said.
There is no clear ruling on this saying that we even broke any rule by doing so, and so please—
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- Jan/30/24 10:35:32 a.m.
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I thank the hon. member for that. We will certainly take a look to make sure everything is consistent. However, from the advice I received from the officers at the table, it is.
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- Jan/30/24 10:35:47 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I think that the advice you are getting from the table officers has to be explained to the House. It is an honour to stand in the House—
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- Jan/30/24 10:35:57 a.m.
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We are getting into debate.
The Chair did explain what was brought forward by the table officers. I ask members to continue to be patient, and we will be able to bring it forward. I ask members to please take their seats for the moment while I go through the point of order. I will be getting back to the House.
Continuing with petitions, the hon. member for Saanich—Gulf Islands.
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- Jan/30/24 10:36:50 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, it is an honour to rise and present my first petition of calendar year 2024. It is perhaps not too late to wish all members in this collegial and loving environment a happy new year.
I would like to present a petition from constituents who are concerned that we move towards a just transition, and that in phasing out fossil fuels and winding down the fossil fuel industry, there be a centring of workers in the process; good, green jobs and inclusive workforce development that proceed expeditiously; expansion of the social safety net to new income supports; decarbonization of public housing; and operational funding for affordable and accessible public transit.
There are a number of other points in the petition, but I think these are the salient ones that the petitioners hope the government will take on board and implement.
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- Jan/30/24 10:37:47 a.m.
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On the issue that was raised by the member for Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, we did look at Hansard and find that the member did apologize for breaking the rules. I would invite members to look at it and see that the member did apologize for breaking the rules. I thank the member for doing so.
Mr. Bob Zimmer: I said, “if I broke the rules”.
The Speaker: There is no debate on this issue; there is just the presentation. The record has stood in the House of Commons as to what happened in December.
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