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House Hansard - 339

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
September 19, 2024 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 339 - Sep/19/24
Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.)
  • Sep/19/24 11:15:40 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I assume the member is talking about fully subsidized social housing, which is, in essence, supported by the federal and provincial governments. Usually, it is the provincial government that plays the lead role. Does the member have any indication from the Province of Quebec of its intent, in the short term or even the long term, with respect to the development of social housing, and if it has approached the federal government to contribute more directly to a social housing project where, let us say, a tenant would only have to pay 30% of their income?
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Ms. Louise Chabot
  • Sep/19/24 11:16:19 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I would return the question to him. He is completely right that Quebec is in charge of housing. As far as federal agreements are concerned, the federal government plays a supporting role, but it cannot go over Quebec's head. What I am saying is that social and community housing are not the federal government's priority right now. Of the hundreds of programs that it put in place under the national housing strategy, only one worked really well, and that is the rapid housing initiative, or RHI, a rapid housing creation program under which community and housing organizations can apply for subsidies. That is what it should focus on. We have proposed all kinds of solutions. The CMHC's current strategy focuses on affordable housing. However, affordability is not clearly defined, since the definition varies from one program to another. We need to review that definition. Affordability should mean no more than 30% of an individual's income, not the median income of a community.
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Mrs. Dominique Vien (Bellechasse—Les Etchemins—Lévis, CPC)
  • Sep/19/24 11:17:35 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Bloc Québécois regularly says that it listens to the Government of Quebec. It says that it listens to the Government of Quebec and its demands regarding federal files. We know that the Liberal government has been piling up failure after failure over the past nine years, which is causing a lot of dissatisfaction. An hon. member: Oh, oh! Mrs. Dominique Vien: I am getting to—
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Mr. Jean-Denis Garon
  • Sep/19/24 11:18:07 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I would like to check that the member's comments are relevant to the matter at hand, which is homelessness and housing.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Sep/19/24 11:18:16 a.m.
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I think the member is getting to that. The hon. member for Bellechasse—Les Etchemins—Lévis.
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Mrs. Dominique Vien
  • Sep/19/24 11:18:20 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Liberal government keeps piling up failure after failure, especially on housing. The Government of Quebec made its wishes very clear this morning. It wants the Bloc Québécois to support the confidence motion the Conservatives will be moving next week. Will the Bloc members listen to the Government of Quebec and vote with us, yes or no?
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Ms. Louise Chabot
  • Sep/19/24 11:18:46 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for her question.
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Mr. Alexandre Boulerice (Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, NDP)
  • Sep/19/24 11:18:56 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for her speech. I also appreciate the brevity of her answer just now. I do have a question for her, though, because the Liberals suddenly have a new-found passion for co-op housing. They displayed a glimmer of interest in more housing co-ops six months ago in April 2024, but, since 2017—
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Ms. Nathalie Sinclair-Desgagné (Terrebonne, BQ)
  • Sep/19/24 11:19:22 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I would like to point out that, after the response by my colleague from Thérèse-De Blainville and before leaving the room, my colleague from Bellechasse—Les Etchemins—Lévis mentioned a lack of courage. I find that offensive and I would like her to withdraw that remark.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Sep/19/24 11:19:34 a.m.
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I did not hear that. We will continue. The hon. member for Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie.
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Mr. Alexandre Boulerice (Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, NDP)
  • Sep/19/24 11:19:46 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I certainly hope those remarks were not made by Conservative members. That would be extremely unfortunate. The point of order is a very good one. The question I started to ask concerned housing co-ops—
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Sep/19/24 11:19:59 a.m.
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The hon. member for Terrebonne is rising again.
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Ms. Nathalie Sinclair-Desgagné
  • Sep/19/24 11:20:01 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, other people in the room probably heard the remark. If I heard it, others would have, too. I would like the member to withdraw her remark.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Sep/19/24 11:20:09 a.m.
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The hon. member for Bellechasse—Les Etchemins—Lévis.
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Mrs. Dominique Vien (Bellechasse—Les Etchemins—Lévis, CPC)
  • Sep/19/24 11:20:11 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I have known the member for Thérèse-De Blainville for a long time. I know she has ideas. I am extremely surprised that she did not answer, other than to say that it was an excellent question.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Sep/19/24 11:20:25 a.m.
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I did not ask for an apology. I will listen carefully to what was said in the House. The hon. member for Drummond.
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Mr. Martin Champoux (Drummond, BQ)
  • Sep/19/24 11:20:33 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on this point of order. First, the question from the member for Bellechasse—Les Etchemins—Lévis was completely off topic. Her question was not relevant at all. Second, I can confirm that we clearly heard the comments made following the member for Thérèse-De Blainville's response, or lack thereof. This is also a matter of honour in the House. If the member has any honour at all, she will apologize and withdraw the remarks she made about my colleague.
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Mr. Todd Doherty
  • Sep/19/24 11:21:02 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, as to this point of order, we are all honourable people in this House. How dare our colleague from the Bloc challenge the honour of our colleague here.
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Sep/19/24 11:21:14 a.m.
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I will look into this and come back to the House with an answer. For now, I would like the hon. member to ask his question. The hon. member for Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie.
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Mr. Alexandre Boulerice (Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, NDP)
  • Sep/19/24 11:21:25 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I am sorry to see the Conservatives using the same old name-calling and personal attacks. It is reprehensible. Let us come back to the issue of co-op housing. The national housing strategy that was launched in 2017 made no mention of co-op housing. The Liberal government woke up at the last minute last spring and mentioned co-op housing in the budget. I would like my colleague to comment on that.
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