I appreciate that question from the member, and I think I understand where you might be going with it, given the government has reduced the gas tax. But at the end of the day, when you’re comparing versus tolls, the differential is shrunken. But previously for tolls, you had a person staying there—actually the border crossings in my community still have a person. You’re creating jobs by having toll booths, and now as we evolve to more of an electronic version, you don’t need those jobs. So in fact, yes, there’s a loss of jobs with automation, but it’s actually a big cost driver. The gas tax way is something that’s just tied to the cost as you fill up at the pump, and you don’t have the spending involved with the collection of tolls versus the gas tax. You don’t have a lot of spending involved with collecting a gas tax, and that’s the basis for my opinion.

I know for the 412 and 418, $68 million is the estimated five-year savings for the drivers in Durham region. I know the member from Oshawa spoke, and very passionately, about the importance of removing those tolls, and I certainly applaud her for her advocacy on that.

Also, the freezing of driver’s licence charges and fees: $22 million since that freeze came in and then $66 million to come between now and 2029—so that’s money back into people’s pockets by initiating these changes. In an affordability crisis, we need to help, as government, keep money in people’s pockets, not keep on taking it away from our families.