The Hon. the Speaker: I will say that I did recognize, first of all, Senator Clement. She was going to adjourn debate. But I recognized Senator Batters and she did ask a question.

The Hon. the Speaker: Senator Clement has moved that further debate be adjourned until the next sitting of the Senate. I will call the question.

It is moved by the Honourable Senator Clement, seconded by the Honourable Senator Petitclerc, that further debate be adjourned until the next sitting of the Senate. Is it your pleasure, honourable senators, to adopt the motion?

The Hon. the Speaker: I said that I think the “nays” have it. I see two senators rising.

And two honourable senators having risen:

An Hon. Senator: One hour.

The Hon. the Speaker: All those in favour will please say “yea.”

Hon. Stan Kutcher: Honourable senators, today I rise to speak in support of Bill S-269, An Act respecting a national framework on advertising for sports betting.

I would like to thank Senator Marty Deacon for introducing this important piece of legislation and acknowledge the interventions of previous speakers during the second reading debate. I will not repeat what has already been said; rather, I will focus on the potential harms that this bill might, in part, be able to mitigate: those of the public health challenge of problematic gambling.

I will focus on the developmental cohort in which problematic gambling often begins: young people.

Last winter, I was watching an NHL hockey game with some of my grandsons. In between the fragments of vigorous play, we were treated to a deluge of advertising for online sports betting. Indeed, it seemed that the amount of time provided for exhorting the virtues of online sports betting might have been close to equal to that for watching the game.

During one of the many commercials promoting online gambling, one of my grandsons exclaimed that he wanted to place a bet so that he could win “tons and tons of money.” That led to a conversation about what gambling was, the odds of winning and losing, the recreational enjoyment of making a wager and the catastrophic impacts on the lives of some people who become problem gamblers. After we finished our chat, and following some considered contemplation, my grandson inquired, “Why would Auston Matthews say it was good if it was not good?”

Indeed, colleagues, that was a question I could not answer without getting into the realm of speculation and the siren lure of lucre, so I simply said, “I don’t know the answer to that.”

Colleagues, as kids grow up, they need heroes. They take their inspiration from heroes. Their heroes are often celebrities and can become their role models.

[Translation]

The Hon. the Speaker: In my opinion, the “yeas” have it.

(On motion of Senator Ringuette, debate adjourned, on division.)

On the Order:

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Deacon (Ontario), seconded by the Honourable Senator Busson, for the second reading of Bill S-269, An Act respecting a national framework on advertising for sports betting.

The Hon. the Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please say “yea.”

The Hon. the Speaker: It is moved by the Honourable Senator Ringuette, seconded by the Honourable Senator Petitclerc, that this motion be adjourned to the next sitting of the Senate.

Is it your pleasure, honourable senators, to adopt the motion?

The Hon. the Speaker: Is it agreed, honourable senators?

The Hon. the Speaker: The question is as follows: It was moved by the Honourable Senator Clement, seconded by the Honourable Senator Petitclerc, that further debate be adjourned until the next sitting of the Senate.

Motion agreed to on the following division:

On the Order:

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Carignan, P.C., seconded by the Honourable Senator Housakos, for the second reading of Bill S-220, An Act to amend the Languages Skills Act (Governor General).

The Hon. the Speaker: Honourable senators, it being 5:15 p.m., I must interrupt the proceeding. Pursuant to rule 9-6, the bells will ring to call in the senators for the taking of a deferred vote at 5:30 p.m., on the motion in amendment of the Honourable Senator McCallum, seconded by the Honourable Senator McPhedran.

Call in the senators.

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On the Order:

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Audette, seconded by the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson, for the third reading of Bill C-29, An Act to provide for the establishment of a national council for reconciliation, as amended.

And on the motion in amendment of the Honourable Senator McCallum, seconded by the Honourable Senator McPhedran:

That Bill C-29, as amended, be not now read a third time, but that it be further amended in the preamble, on page 1, by replacing line 1 with the following:

“Whereas, since time immemorial, First Nations and Inuit peo-”.

Some Hon. Senators: Nay.

Hon. Pierrette Ringuette: Your Honour, I take the adjournment of the debate.

Hon. Bernadette Clement: Honourable senators, I note that this item is on day 15, and I’m not ready to speak at this time. Therefore, with leave of the Senate and notwithstanding rule 4-15(3), I move the adjournment of the debate for the balance of my time.

The Hon. the Speaker: Honourable senators, the question is as follows: It was moved by the Honourable Senator McCallum, seconded by the Honourable Senator McPhedran:

That Bill C-29, as amended, be not now read a third time, but that it be further amended in the preamble, on page 1, by replacing line 1 with the following:

“Whereas, since time immemorial, First Nations and Inuit peo-”.

Motion in amendment of the Honourable Senator McCallum negatived on the following division:

The Hon. the Speaker: Honourable senators, the question is as follows: It was moved by the Honourable Senator McCallum, seconded by the Honourable Senator McPhedran:

That Bill C-29, as amended, be not now read a third time, but that it be further amended in the preamble, on page 1, by replacing line 1 with the following:

“Whereas, since time immemorial, First Nations and Inuit peo-”.

Motion in amendment of the Honourable Senator McCallum negatived on the following division: