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Decentralized Democracy

House Committee

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
December 4, 2023
Context: Committee Evidence - FEWO-89 (FEWO) - Dec/4/23
The Chair
  • 04:48:20 p.m.
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There were a few different words in there. Did you talk about the others?
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Ms. Leslyn Lewis
  • 04:48:26 p.m.
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No. I've kept their amendment and then just added “believes on reasonable and probable grounds”.
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The Chair
  • 04:48:32 p.m.
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I have it. That's fantastic. She has to get this written and distributed. I know that Leah had a comment to make. Go ahead, Leah.
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Ms. Leah Gazan
  • 04:48:42 p.m.
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I don't know if this is helpful. I certainly hope it's helpful. I know that when there's a suspicion of child abuse, the way it currently stands you have a legal obligation to report. I don't think we're really swaying too much from existing laws. However, we're now talking about violence, which people report all the time, in fact. Then it's up to the victim to decide what they want to do with it. I don't know if that's helpful. Maybe it's totally not helpful. I know you have to do that under the law anyway right now.
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The Chair
  • 04:49:24 p.m.
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Thanks so much, Leah. Go ahead, Sonia, on the subamendment, and then we'll get this written.
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Ms. Sonia Sidhu
  • 04:49:31 p.m.
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Madam Chair, can we suspend for a bit?
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The Chair
  • 04:49:34 p.m.
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Yes. That's what I was trying to do. We're going to suspend, everyone. We'll get this in writing.
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The Chair
  • 04:58:54 p.m.
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I'm suspending for a few more minutes. We have votes very shortly. We have clause 2 with the amendment that will be coming back with translation. We are going to have to stand clause 2 and go on to our next amendment. We won't do anything to do with that amendment, because we need it in writing, so we can just go on to clause 3. I need a UC motion. I need everybody's consent so that we can stand clause 2 until we have the translation available to us, and go on to clause 3. (Clause 2 allowed to stand) The Chair: That was awesome. Well done. Emmanuella, you have your hand up. Do you have a comment?
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Ms. Emmanuella Lambropoulos (Saint-Laurent, Lib.)
  • 04:59:47 p.m.
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It's on clause 2, so when we get back to that, I'll ask the question.
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The Chair
  • 04:59:50 p.m.
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Let's look at the time. We are exactly 15 minutes out from the vote. Would we like to vote in the room? We can proceed with another 10 minutes of work and then take five minutes to vote. Is everybody good with that? I'm looking at everybody, and everybody looks good. We're happy and joyful. Let's move on. It's consequential. We are now going to move on to clause 4. There are a whole bunch of things that are procedural in here. Clause 3 is dependent on something else, so we're going on to clause 4 now. There are no amendments in clause 4. An hon. member: [Inaudible—Editor] The Chair: It's okay. Take your time. I'll go over it again. We will not be doing clause 3, because it is linked to clause 2, and clause 2 has been stood for now. We won't be able to do clause 3 right now because of clause 2, so we'll move on to clause 4. Clause 4 has no amendments right now, so it's really up to us how we want to proceed. Do we support it? Can we move forward? We can take a vote on that. (Clauses 4 and 5 agreed to) (On clause 6) The Chair: G-9 is the amendment.... We cannot do clause 6 because it is related to clause 3, and clause 3 is related to clause 2. We will have to hold on. Are we good to go with G-10? Yes. We're looking at page 14. G-9 can't be done. We're on G-10. Sonia, this is one that you brought forward. Go ahead.
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Ms. Sonia Sidhu
  • 05:03:34 p.m.
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Yes, Madam Chair. It removes the requirement in relation to the timelines, so it's making an order in relation to the ability for the informant to make some submissions as to what conditions should be imposed on the defendant—that's in proposed new subsection (8)—and adding the words “intimate partner” and “Attorney General” in proposed new subsection (12) to ensure that both the intimate partner and the Attorney General can apply to vary the condition of the recognizance, in addition to the defendant.
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The Chair
  • 05:04:14 p.m.
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Anita has her hand up. Go ahead, Anita.
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Ms. Anita Vandenbeld
  • 05:04:18 p.m.
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My understanding is that G-10 is consequential to G-3. I don't know that we can necessarily do that now.
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The Chair
  • 05:04:26 p.m.
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G-9 is consequential, but not—
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Ms. Anita Vandenbeld
  • 05:04:30 p.m.
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Could we suspend for a moment? I'm very confused.
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The Chair
  • 05:04:34 p.m.
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We'll suspend until after the vote.
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The Chair
  • 05:18:46 p.m.
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We're back. We've gone through this, and we're going to let you know that there are a few different consequential things. There is clause 6, which has G-9. We introduced G-10, but there is also a consequential issue here. It is a consequential change. Because I had already presented it, we need unanimous consent to stand clause 6 as well. (Clause 6 allowed to stand) (Clauses 9 and 10 agreed to)
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Mr. Marc Serré
  • 05:19:55 p.m.
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Madam Chair, it says clause 10.1. What's the difference?
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The Chair
  • 05:19:59 p.m.
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That's a new clause, 10.1, that you're referring to. It's amendment G-14. If you want to present G-14, Marc or Sonia, go for it. We're at the very end, at 10.1. This one flew, because so many things were consequential. We're now at the last one, G-14. This is a new amendment.
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Ms. Sonia Sidhu
  • 05:20:37 p.m.
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Madam Chair, this is technical.
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