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House Hansard - 77

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 30, 2022 11:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 77 - May/30/22
Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:05:01 p.m.
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Madam Chair, we will do a responsible set of consultations as we develop the plan. People deserve no less.
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:05:09 p.m.
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Madam Chair, is the government committed to having meaningful transition supports available to indigenous and rural workers who will be impacted by the removal of fish farms from B.C.'s waters?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:05:22 p.m.
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Madam Chair, the plan is under development and the plan will consider what kinds of mitigation measures are appropriate.
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:05:35 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I am hearing from first nations that are worried about this transition taking place without a robust consultation and the resources they need to support their communities. Can the minister point to concrete steps that the government has taken to fund a just transition for these communities, and if there are none, when will we see them?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:06:00 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I just want to reinforce that we are still in the process of developing a plan so it is not clear what, if any, just transition will be necessary. We are in the process of consulting with all potentially affected stakeholders so that we can develop a responsible plan, and that is what we will do.
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:06:23 p.m.
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Madam Chair, last year's Oceana Fishery Audit highlighted that one-third of all of Canada's fish stocks remained uncertain due to insufficient data. When will DFO ensure that all of Canada's stocks have sufficient assessments completed?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:06:41 p.m.
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Madam Chair, that is an important priority for us and we are working on developing a precautionary principle-based approach to all of our stocks, and many of them have been completed.
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:06:57 p.m.
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Madam Chair, the government has recognized that plastics pose a significant threat to our oceans, as mentioned in the minister's intervention. Can the minister commit that polystyrene products will be included as pollutants in the oceans protection plan?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:07:16 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I did not catch the word that the member was asking about. Which product is it? Ms. Lisa Marie Barron: Polystyrene. Hon. Joyce Murray: Polystyrene products are part of removing plastic waste from the waters.
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:07:34 p.m.
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Madam Chair, in the wake of the MV Zim Kingston cargo spill last year, we heard countless stories of the government failing to collaborate with indigenous communities and local experts. Can the government commit that the expanded oceans protection plan will include an integrated and timely response that works in collaboration with these groups?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:07:53 p.m.
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Madam Chair, this is a great opportunity for me to congratulate the Canadian Coast Guard and its partners, including indigenous communities, who were part of the very fast and effective response to the Zim Kingston accident.
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:08:07 p.m.
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Madam Chair, owner-operator licencing in the Atlantic means independent harvesters and communities benefit from our fishing industry. However, corporate concentration of processing facilities threatens their ability to get a reasonable price for their catch. How is the minister working to ensure this budget supports independent harvesters and the communities that rely on them?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:08:33 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I am assuming we are talking about the east coast. We have some very clear rules that any of the inshore companies have to be 100% Canadian held and offshore companies need to be 51% Canadian held.
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:08:55 p.m.
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Madam Chair, fish harvesters on the west coast have felt the negative impacts of corporate ownership and anonymous licence holders without a strong owner-operator licencing model. When will the government ensure that our west coast has a beneficial licence model?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:09:13 p.m.
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Madam Chair, we have reviewed the fisheries and oceans committee report on this matter. We are undertaking a study of the beneficial ownership of all of the players on the west coast so that we can analyze that and decide what steps need to be taken.
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:09:32 p.m.
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Madam Chair, last year's flooding in the lower Fraser, and in British Columbia as a whole, could have devastating impacts on already threatened salmon species. When the PSSI's senior director Sarah Murdoch testified to the fisheries and oceans committee, she said that DFO was not looking to reallocate resources from the PSSI to help with salmon habitat restoration in the wake of last year's flooding. Does the minister agree that this emergency event is worth allocating funding towards?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:10:00 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I will agree it was a very concerning event. I am on the cabinet committee on emergencies, and I have had a chance to bring up the concern around fish habitat on a number of occasions. I will continue to have my eye on that ball, and we will need to do restoration.
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:10:21 p.m.
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Madam Chair, how many projects has DFO helped to support in the wake of last year's flooding in British Columbia?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:10:29 p.m.
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Madam Chair, the flooding was a huge cost and a huge tragedy. The lead ministries are other ministries, not DFO, but we have been at the table to bring forward our concerns and to check what the impact was on the spawning grounds and hatcheries in that area.
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:10:51 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I believe that answer would be zero, but perhaps the minister can clarify if that is not the case.
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