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House Hansard - 77

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 30, 2022 11:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 77 - May/30/22
Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:07:53 p.m.
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Madam Chair, this is a great opportunity for me to congratulate the Canadian Coast Guard and its partners, including indigenous communities, who were part of the very fast and effective response to the Zim Kingston accident.
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:08:07 p.m.
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Madam Chair, owner-operator licencing in the Atlantic means independent harvesters and communities benefit from our fishing industry. However, corporate concentration of processing facilities threatens their ability to get a reasonable price for their catch. How is the minister working to ensure this budget supports independent harvesters and the communities that rely on them?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:08:33 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I am assuming we are talking about the east coast. We have some very clear rules that any of the inshore companies have to be 100% Canadian held and offshore companies need to be 51% Canadian held.
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:08:55 p.m.
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Madam Chair, fish harvesters on the west coast have felt the negative impacts of corporate ownership and anonymous licence holders without a strong owner-operator licencing model. When will the government ensure that our west coast has a beneficial licence model?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:09:13 p.m.
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Madam Chair, we have reviewed the fisheries and oceans committee report on this matter. We are undertaking a study of the beneficial ownership of all of the players on the west coast so that we can analyze that and decide what steps need to be taken.
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:09:32 p.m.
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Madam Chair, last year's flooding in the lower Fraser, and in British Columbia as a whole, could have devastating impacts on already threatened salmon species. When the PSSI's senior director Sarah Murdoch testified to the fisheries and oceans committee, she said that DFO was not looking to reallocate resources from the PSSI to help with salmon habitat restoration in the wake of last year's flooding. Does the minister agree that this emergency event is worth allocating funding towards?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:10:00 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I will agree it was a very concerning event. I am on the cabinet committee on emergencies, and I have had a chance to bring up the concern around fish habitat on a number of occasions. I will continue to have my eye on that ball, and we will need to do restoration.
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:10:21 p.m.
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Madam Chair, how many projects has DFO helped to support in the wake of last year's flooding in British Columbia?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:10:29 p.m.
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Madam Chair, the flooding was a huge cost and a huge tragedy. The lead ministries are other ministries, not DFO, but we have been at the table to bring forward our concerns and to check what the impact was on the spawning grounds and hatcheries in that area.
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:10:51 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I believe that answer would be zero, but perhaps the minister can clarify if that is not the case.
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:11:00 p.m.
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Madam Chair, we also had Canadian Coast Guard assets on standby to assist during the flooding.
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:11:09 p.m.
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Madam Chair, does the minister think B.C. will be able to build back better if DFO is not willing to help invest in fish-friendly infrastructure and habitat restoration?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:11:20 p.m.
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Madam Chair, as I have said, we have $747 million for the Pacific salmon initiative, and we will use that where it will do the most good.
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:11:31 p.m.
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Madam Chair, it has been a year since the PSSI promised to develop a centre of expertise. When will that keystone program be created?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:11:43 p.m.
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Madam Chair, we have a five-year program, and piece by piece we are working with partners to make sure we are doing this in a collaborative way.
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:11:58 p.m.
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Madam Chair, does the minister agree that as the climate crisis becomes more urgent, our programs like the PSSI need to be adaptive and able to respond quickly? Why can the PSSI not be there when salmon need support the most?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:12:13 p.m.
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Madam Chair, I could not agree more with the member that we need to factor climate change into everything we do on the coast. That is why nature-based solutions are so important, and I think ocean source solutions—
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The Deputy Chair
  • May/30/22 9:12:30 p.m.
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The hon. member has the floor.
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Ms. Lisa Marie Barron
  • May/30/22 9:12:32 p.m.
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Madam Chair, Watershed Watch and SkeenaWild recently published a report estimating that last year Alaskan fishers caught an estimated 650,000 B.C.-bound sockeye salmon while Canadian fishers caught as few as 110,000. Does the minister agree that first nations, commercial fishers and recreational fishers should be forced to keep their boats at dock while so many B.C.-bound fish are being caught in Alaska?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 9:13:01 p.m.
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Madam Chair, it is very important that our Pacific salmon are not overfished. I have heard the concerns about potential Alaskan overfishing, and that has been forwarded to the Pacific Salmon Treaty commissioners. They will be reviewing that.
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