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House Hansard - 77

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 30, 2022 11:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 77 - May/30/22
Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 11:34:18 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, the ships that go to sea have gone through inspections and are safe to sail. The reality is that new ships sometimes have problems that do not emerge until they are out on the water.
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Mr. Mel Arnold
  • May/30/22 11:34:36 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, earlier the minister stated that the government is developing a responsible plan for those affected by the Discovery Islands decision, because those people deserve no less. Some British Columbians have already lost their jobs to the Discovery Islands decision, and this minister keeps telling them to just go on EI. Why does the minister believe that some Canadians deserve no less than a responsible transition plan, but others should go on EI?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 11:35:07 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, the licences that were not renewed in the Discovery Islands were before my time as minister. I have the responsibility to develop a responsible plan for transitioning away from open net-pen aquaculture.
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Mr. Mel Arnold
  • May/30/22 11:35:30 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, tonight the minister stated that there are EI programs for those having difficulties. The minister is referring to difficulties like jobs and businesses that have been eliminated by the government's decision. Can the minister admit tonight that her government's decisions are more than difficulties for Canadians, that they are already devastating?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 11:35:54 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, what I would say is that it is a difficult situation for anyone who loses a job or a business, and I have a great deal of empathy. I would like to point out that there are more jobs than before the COVID pandemic and that our unemployment rate is at a historic low.
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Mr. Mel Arnold
  • May/30/22 11:36:17 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, what level of importance does the minister place on the work of the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 11:36:25 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, it is very important work.
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Mr. Mel Arnold
  • May/30/22 11:36:29 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, earlier the minister stated that the government is studying potential steps to establish a beneficial owner licensing policy on the west coast. Has the minister read the fisheries committee report that examined problems in the DFO licensing and quota regimes on the west coast?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 11:36:48 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, I think there may be a misunderstanding as to what I said. It was that the DFO is conducting a study of beneficial ownership, and yes, I have reviewed the report.
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Mr. Mel Arnold
  • May/30/22 11:37:04 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, this report was titled “West Coast Fisheries: Sharing Risk and Benefits”, and it provided the government with 20 recommendations. Has the minister included the committee's recommendations in the government's development of a beneficial owner licensing policy for the west coast?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 11:37:21 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, we are certainly reviewing the recommendations and taking them into consideration.
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Mr. Mel Arnold
  • May/30/22 11:37:28 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, does the minister sign off on DFO's proposed annual budget and estimates before they are tabled in the House?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 11:37:36 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, that is not part of what I do.
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Mr. Mel Arnold
  • May/30/22 11:37:52 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, the minister does not sign off on the budget for her own department? That is shocking. How much of DFO's budget for the current fiscal year is determined by cabinet?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 11:38:11 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, I just want to go back over the previous question. I recommend the budget to the House. I do not sign off on the budget.
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Mr. Mel Arnold
  • May/30/22 11:38:25 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, how much of DFO's budget for the current fiscal year is determined by cabinet?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 11:38:36 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, it is decided by the House.
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Mr. Mel Arnold
  • May/30/22 11:38:45 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, has the minister reduced or increased the ministry's budget estimates under the direction of the PMO or cabinet?
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Hon. Joyce Murray
  • May/30/22 11:38:56 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, no, I have not.
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Mr. Mel Arnold
  • May/30/22 11:39:00 p.m.
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Mr. Chair, during the development of DFO's budget for the current fiscal year, did the minister reduce draft estimates from one DFO branch in order to meet resource requirements from another branch of DFO?
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