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House Hansard - 98

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
September 20, 2022 10:00AM
  • Sep/20/22 11:25:12 a.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-22 
Madam Speaker, part of the thinking behind making this framework legislation was to recognize the important role that provinces and territories play in this space. Conceptually, this is modelled after the guaranteed income supplement, so it would be supplemental income, in addition to other supports that individuals receive. However, the negotiations with provinces and territories really will dictate the ambition of this because, if they are not willing to not claw it back, we are not willing to replace the income they already provide. It is roughly modelled after the GIS. The idea would be to lift people out of poverty and get people to a point where they are no longer living in poverty. However, the exact amount will be directly informed by the negotiations with the provinces and territories.
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  • Sep/20/22 11:33:40 a.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-22 
Madam Speaker, I was concerned, in moving forward with this legislation, that we were not to impose requirements or criteria on a population that has always been imposed upon. I was concerned that we would make it more difficult for provinces and territories to collaborate and harmonize if we were to be too prescriptive. The whole notion of moving forward collaboratively in almost a co-development fashion is novel, and it feels a little uncertain, but it is the right thing to do. At the end of the day, after we go through this, we could look back and say that we had included people, we had given the provinces and territories the flexibility they needed to stand up and deliver, and people's lives were made better.
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  • Sep/20/22 2:38:40 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, this year, we signed 13 agreements with the provinces and territories to lower the cost of child care across the country. That means putting thousands of dollars back in the pockets of parents so they can give their children what they need, cover the high cost of living and buy the things they need. Our agreement is helping families. That is great, and that is what we will keep doing.
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  • Sep/20/22 3:36:51 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-22 
Madam Speaker, what this bill provides, as I indicated in my speech, is a framework. If I wanted to draw a parallel, I would say to think of a railroad, laying out the groundwork for all of the rails to be drawn for the locomotive to come. As we go through the 13 provinces and territories, and as we work with all of the organizations and the individuals who are impacted, we will work with those territories and provinces to make sure that it is not only inclusive but also does not have any unintended consequences. Yes, there might be some ambiguity at this point, but if we pass the bill, get it to committee and start calling witnesses from across Canada, from across organizations, and working with the provinces, we can ensure that we have a very pragmatic program and regulation to roll out.
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  • Sep/20/22 4:17:48 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-22 
Madam Speaker, there has been discussion today about how we are going to work with the provinces and territories to make sure they are not clawing back benefits. How is the government going to harmonize all the other federal disability benefit programs that exist to ensure that people are supported but there is not overlap?
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  • Sep/20/22 4:20:07 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-22 
Madam Speaker, now I am nervous. I am going to try to say a few words in French, for my colleague and my French teacher. It is important for me and for all Canadians that we work together with the provinces and territories. We left room because we need to work together. Different provinces look different. Some are more advanced than others. Quebec has set a strong standard for what we can do together, and I think we can learn from each other. I am not afraid of that work. Leaving space, I am especially encouraged, because it feels like everyone is on the same side. We can work on the details and we can make sure that this works across Canada. I have every confidence that we can do it.
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