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44th Parl. 1st Sess.
October 19, 2022 02:00PM
  • Oct/19/22 6:23:25 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill S-5 
Madam Speaker, the irony is that I am being heckled by one of the strongest and biggest climate deniers on that bench. Nonetheless, to answer the question, the member is assuming that every other variable stays still. There are so many other variables involved in trying to measure this. It is a very easy talking point. I know the Conservatives love doing it. They are oversimplifying the issue. The reality is that the member has to look at this stuff holistically. He has to look at every variable involved, and when he does that, he will land on the same conclusion that every economist does and that every other nation has that has put similar practices in place.
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  • Oct/19/22 6:27:05 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill S-5 
Madam Speaker, who, on this side of the bench, is the so-called biggest climate denier? Historically, what has occurred is that, when a scientific basis for a comment or an explanation is not in reach or does not exist, their reaction is to automatically call the person who is questioning the science behind what they are stating some sort of name.
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  • Oct/19/22 6:27:40 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill S-5 
Madam Speaker, it appears as though there is a bit of a jealousy going on, because maybe this member who is asking me the question is indeed the biggest climate denier. We just have to watch the Gallant news network to see that for ourselves—
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  • Oct/19/22 6:28:14 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill S-5 
Madam Speaker, I do apologize for using the member's name. I was actually referring to the newscast program. I thought that was the proper name of that and I was not trying to reference her name. However, she is on the record suggesting that climate change is not real on multiple occasions, not just on social media but in the House. If it is going to be a competition as to who is the bigger climate denier, let the Conservatives sort that out on their own and then they can come back and tell us.
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  • Oct/19/22 6:28:58 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill S-5 
Madam Speaker, on a point of order, if you check the record, you will find that when he asked that question last time, I replied that I agreed that the climate has been changing since—
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  • Oct/19/22 8:05:43 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, it is always a pleasure to talk with my colleague from Bow River. I am glad that he brought up the top of climate change. I met with a whole bunch of farmers from my riding. Many people are not aware that the riding of Milton is home to many ag producers. We have beef farmers, chicken farmers, egg farmers and apple farmers. When my family came from the Netherlands, they settled just outside of Chatham, Ontario, and they are apple farmers themselves. I love visiting farms and talking to farmers. I will say that the farmers in my riding are committed to fighting climate change. They understand that they have an extraordinarily important role to play and they are focused on saving our environment from climate change. I know that the farmers in my colleague's riding also care about climate change and fighting it. It is up to the provinces to decide if they would like to bring something forward like cap and trade or another measure to fight climate change. For the provinces that do not, like Alberta where my colleague is from, and Ontario where I live, we have a backstop program and that is a price on pollution. It is a good thing.
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