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House Hansard - 137

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
November 29, 2022 10:00AM
  • Nov/29/22 11:21:14 a.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-29 
Madam Speaker, in addition to having one of the largest indigenous populations of our relatives in Winnipeg North, the member's riding is also home to one of the largest apprehension rates from Child and Family Services in Canada. In addition, this is a member of the government. However, do not take it from me, take it from a previous auditor general, who said in 2011, at the end of her mandate, that she was not impressed. After 10 years of audits, it was simply unacceptable. The auditor general after that said it was more unacceptable. The current Auditor General's report, which was just recently published, says that the government is failing to put the interests of first nations at the heart of its mandate. When will the government truly take indigenous issues seriously? The government has had seven years. We cannot wait. When?
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  • Nov/29/22 4:02:21 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-29 
Mr. Speaker, the Auditor General report that was published two weeks ago points to the abject failure of the Indigenous Services Canada department to implement any of the concrete changes related to how it handled the emergency planning for first nations communities. They were recommended in the audit of 2013. In 10 years, the department could not change its approach to make the lives of indigenous people better. How confident is the member of the Liberal government that it would act on any of the recommendations made by the national council for reconciliation?
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  • Nov/29/22 4:38:23 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-29 
Mr. Speaker, that is one of the frustrations that we sometimes talk about in our circles, this gap between words and actions. We see that often. We can talk about the Auditor General report that was released this week. Every time we ask a question of the government, the response is, “Look how much we have spent on this. We must have fixed it”, but the Auditor General said that the government is good at measuring outputs but not as good at measuring outcomes. Our party is about outcomes. To the hon. member's specific example, I think the other thing that we always have to be aware of with those projects is that we have to respect the right of people along the way. It is their right to say yes and their right to say no, and we want to respect both of those.
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