House Hansard - 170

44th Parl. 1st Sess.

March 21, 2023 10:00AM

Context: House Hansard - 170 - Mar/21/23

Mar/21/23 1:27:10 p.m.
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I am really impressed that the hon. member was talking about the canals in Nova Scotia. The historic Shubenacadie Canal was on the list. Questions and comments, the hon. member for Dufferin—Caledon.

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Context: House Hansard - 170 - Mar/21/23

Mr. Kyle Seeback (Dufferin—Caledon, CPC)

Mar/21/23 1:27:21 p.m.
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Re: Bill C-23

Mr. Speaker, I struggle to understand why this bill had first reading in June of last year and is only being brought back now for second reading, almost a year later, if this is something the government feels is so important. It seems like the government lacks urgency on this, as with other things, like the concurrence debate we just had. There is no urgency there. Going through law school, I was always told that the devil is in the details, and I have some details that I want the member to comment on. With this piece of legislation, the minister would have the ability to “restrict or prohibit the navigation, anchoring or mooring of vessels in historic canals”. The Trent-Severn, for example, in Ontario, is a massive tourist draw and people use it all the time. The minister could shut it down with the powers in this bill. The other troubling part in the bill is that these powers could extend to lands adjoining or incidental to historic places, which could be privately owned lands. What safeguards is the member willing to put in place so there can be no overreach by the minister with respect to using historic canals or lands adjoining historic places?

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Context: House Hansard - 170 - Mar/21/23

Ms. Marilyn Gladu (Sarnia—Lambton, CPC)

Mar/21/23 5:17:45 p.m.
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Re: Bill C-23

Madam Speaker, my colleague talked about canals. I think this is a very good example of something we need a little more detail on in this bill. If the bill gives the sole responsibility for decision-making about heritage sites like canals to ministers, and something comes up that is a concern to the Minister of Canadian Heritage, the Minister of Fisheries or the Minister of Tourism, what is the mechanism to sort out the differences?

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Context: House Hansard - 170 - Mar/21/23

Mr. Stéphane Lauzon

Mar/21/23 5:18:17 p.m.
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Re: Bill C-23

Madam Speaker, this bill will enable us to not only identify and classify the infrastructure, but also assess its condition. How can we protect this infrastructure from climate change? The simple act of entering the historic canals in the register will make it possible to work on improving the state of each of Canada's nine historic canals.

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Ms. Andréanne Larouche (Shefford, BQ)

Mar/21/23 5:18:48 p.m.
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Re: Bill C-23

Madam Speaker, I thank my colleague for his speech. It is interesting that he talked about historic canals. I was once hired to promote our historic canals for a few months. I had already visited those canals by sailboat with my father, since I learned to sail when I was young. My colleague talked about the Rideau Canal. He also spoke about climate change. We all have good memories of skating on the Rideau Canal, but it is clear that climate change has consequences. I was not able to skate on the Rideau Canal this year. Climate change is also having an impact on indigenous peoples. How can the government say that it wants to take action on climate change and that it cares about indigenous issues while continuing to invest so much money in things like Alberta's oil sands, which are still doing so much damage and have significantly contributed to the increase in greenhouse gases?

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