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House Hansard - 192

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 8, 2023 11:00AM
  • May/8/23 2:05:09 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, on May 29 Albertans will go to the polls in a provincial election. Since 2015, Alberta has faced two problems: first, the accidental election of Rachel Notley and the socialist Alberta NDP; and, second, the election of the current Liberal Prime Minister and the parties that enable him. Both of these political parties have brought about devastation in Alberta. Their high-tax, anti-energy and inherently flawed economic policies have led to hundreds of thousands of jobs being lost, billions of dollars in lost investments, and the deterioration of the Alberta advantage. In 2019, Alberta dealt with the first problem and returned Conservatives to power in Edmonton. Despite many challenges, my home province has once again been moving forward. On May 29, Albertans have a choice to elect the Alberta NDP, who with the federal Liberals and their NDP partners in Ottawa will punish Alberta, or to elect a strong, united Conservative majority. I am voting for my local UCP candidate. We can then move on to dealing with the second problem, which is to get rid of those tired—
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  • May/8/23 3:15:01 p.m.
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It being 3:15 p.m., pursuant to order made on Thursday, June 23, 2022, the House will now proceed to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of the member for St. Albert—Edmonton relating to the business of supply. Call in the members.
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  • May/8/23 4:23:22 p.m.
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This is descending into debate once again. It seems like it is the same thing. We keep falling into debate. I know that the Speaker was thinking of coming back with something on this. The hon. member for Edmonton—Wetaskiwin.
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  • May/8/23 4:24:53 p.m.
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I said that we are done with that. The hon. member for Edmonton—Wetaskiwin.
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  • May/8/23 4:44:16 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the member for Edmonton Strathcona is a very strong and powerful voice on foreign affairs and on many other issues in this House. Her wisdom is something we should all listen to. This is the reality, and this is why, when the NDP brought forward the motion on the public inquiry, we sought to ensure that we were fighting back against all forms of foreign interference. Yes, we know from the CSIS reports that the Chinese regime, the Russian dictatorship, Iran and India all seek to influence our democracy, seek to influence our diaspora and seek to change the direction Canadians want to take together. We have to be mindful of all those things, and this is why we believe that a comprehensive public inquiry into foreign interference is warranted and needs to be put into place. We have been calling for it now since we brought it to the House five weeks ago. We are hoping to see a recommendation in the next couple of weeks and it being put rapidly into place. This is vitally important, and we cannot dissect one type of foreign interference from the Chinese regime or the Russian dictatorship and say that we are just going to examine one type. All of them have an impact on our democracy, and hopefully, all of us as members of Parliament will want to push back against any form of foreign interference in solidarity. Regardless of which country it comes from, it is unacceptable, and Canadians speak with one voice in standing up for our democracy.
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  • May/8/23 5:59:25 p.m.
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I know that the hon. member raised a point of order asking for an apology. I was not here in the chamber when this issue was before the House. I understand that this was raised with the Speaker. I would just say that at this point in time I am going to allow the hon. member to ask the question and I am sure that the hon. member for St. Albert—Edmonton will be able to answer that. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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  • May/8/23 6:06:44 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, the member for St. Albert—Edmonton spoke about foreign interference with respect to one particular jurisdiction. Colleagues of ours, including the member for Edmonton Strathcona, have called out foreign interference with respect to other jurisdictions as well. Russia is one example. Does the member for St. Albert—Edmonton feel we should be looking at a full national public inquiry into all matters of foreign interference, regardless of what jurisdiction it is from?
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  • May/8/23 6:11:09 p.m.
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It all depends on whether I stay standing or not. Sometimes it is still on while I am listening to the member. I take note of it and we will certainly keep that in mind as we move forward. I would ask the hon. member for Edmonton—Wetaskiwin to ask a brief question so we can get to the answer.
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  • May/8/23 6:11:38 p.m.
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I would ask the hon. member to ask his question of the hon. member for St. Albert—Edmonton. We can leave this other debate to the side so that we can go back and look at the Hansard.
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  • May/8/23 6:12:00 p.m.
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This is not becoming a point of debate as it is somebody's point of view. I am going to allow the hon. member to answer and then we are going to move on. The hon. member for St. Albert—Edmonton.
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  • May/8/23 7:44:18 p.m.
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The hon. member for Edmonton—Wetaskiwin.
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  • May/8/23 7:44:46 p.m.
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This is becoming a point of debate again. I would ask the parliamentary secretary to wait until I am finished. The hon. member for Edmonton—Wetaskiwin.
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  • May/8/23 7:45:29 p.m.
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We can mention that we are in the House, but we should not mention who was not in the House. We are going straight to the question at hand. The hon. member for Edmonton—Wetaskiwin.
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  • May/8/23 7:46:33 p.m.
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If this continues, I am just going to end the debate, because we are going to run out of time. The hon. member for Edmonton—Wetaskiwin.
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  • May/8/23 11:12:12 p.m.
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I am in the chair. This is the same debate we have been having for three days, and I have ruled the member out every time he has stood there and tried to bring it forward. That is not a point of order. It is a good point of debate, but I just want to make sure we have heard it and gotten it in Hansard. We have been over it a number of times, and I am hoping that, when the debate continues, we can maybe stop accusing each other of things and just proceed with the information we have before us. The hon. member for Edmonton—Wetaskiwin.
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  • May/8/23 11:13:31 p.m.
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Order. The hon. member for Edmonton—Wetaskiwin.
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  • May/8/23 11:14:17 p.m.
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That is close to a point of order, but the member did not specify which member was coming in or out. I think it was a general thing. I saw two members coming in at the same time, so I do not know which one he was referring to. The hon. member for Edmonton—Wetaskiwin.
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  • May/8/23 11:26:08 p.m.
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We are definitely getting into a grey area. The hon. member for Edmonton—Wetaskiwin.
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