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House Hansard - 205

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
June 2, 2023 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 205 - Jun/2/23
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/2/23 12:28:23 p.m.
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The member asked to table a document. As for correcting the record, that is a matter of debate. Does the hon. member have the unanimous consent of the House to table to the document? Some hon. members: No. The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes): The hon. member for Peterborough—Kawartha is rising on a point of order.
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Ms. Michelle Ferreri
  • Jun/2/23 12:28:42 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I am hoping that if you seek it, you will find unanimous consent to table a news report about something that happened in my riding this morning. My riding, for people who may not know, is Peterborough—Kawartha, and it has been a bit of a canary in the coal mine of the crisis happening in this country. There is a decline in public safety, primarily for our most vulnerable, and also addictions and mental health. Early this morning, there was a fatal shooting of a young woman in a homeless tent encampment in Peterborough, and I am asking if we could table with unanimous consent the news report of this, because I think it is really critical that we address this right now. This is why I came here to Parliament, to be honest, and this is something that business owners have been crying about. People knew and said this was going to happen. I have been in contact with officials. In my riding, there is a sense of fear and a sense of despair, quite frankly, and it is just horrific news coming out of our community. I would just ask for unanimous consent to table this news story for the House.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/2/23 12:30:10 p.m.
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Does the hon. member have unanimous consent to table the news story? Some hon. members: No.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/2/23 12:31:03 p.m.
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The question is on the motion. If a member of a recognized party present in the House wishes to request a recorded division or that the motion be adopted on division, I would invite them to rise and indicate it to the Chair. The hon. member for Mégantic—L'Érable.
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Mr. Luc Berthold
  • Jun/2/23 12:31:35 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I request a recorded division.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/2/23 12:31:39 p.m.
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Call in the members. During the taking of the vote:
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Mr. Michael Barrett
  • Jun/2/23 1:35:50 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I logged into the app. It did not work. I would like to register my vote as no. It was a technical issue.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/2/23 1:37:48 p.m.
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Given that individuals had so many problems, I am going to make sure that we ask the technical team to look at this to make sure that it was not intentional on the part of members. The table will now compile the results of the vote.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/2/23 1:38:25 p.m.
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I declare the motion carried. The hon. member for New Westminster—Burnaby on a point of order.
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Mr. Peter Julian
  • Jun/2/23 1:38:40 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, on a point of order, I would urge you, in light of the circus that just transpired, to fully investigate this vote. We have functioned for three years on an honour system around virtual voting and virtual Parliament, and Conservatives have actually used the virtual Parliament more than any other party. I find it difficult to accept that today that there is some mystery virus that has impacted only Conservatives and has not impacted members of the Bloc, the NDP, the Liberals or the Greens. The fact that we have had repeated disruptions is equivalent, in the virtual world, to a member in this House throwing their chair across the House and setting fire to their desk. If there was some mystery virus that hit only Conservatives— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/2/23 1:39:46 p.m.
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That is not really a point of order, but to have had so many problems is something that I will endeavour to have the team look into. I have to recognize someone from other than the official opposition. The hon. parliamentary secretary has a point of order.
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Mr. Kevin Lamoureux
  • Jun/2/23 1:40:11 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, you made a comment that you will review what has taken place, and we appreciate that. I would point out that there is a rule regarding contempt of Parliament, and this does need to be looked at if members were participating here in an intentionally inappropriate way through the voting application. That would be a contempt of Parliament. We would appreciate the Speaker taking note of this and reporting back to the House.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/2/23 1:40:49 p.m.
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I appreciate the information. As I have indicated, I will have the technical team look into why there were so many technical difficulties. In order for the hon. official opposition House leader to speak, he would have to have a headset. He may want to ask somebody else to speak on his behalf. The hon. member for Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola.
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Mr. Dan Albas
  • Jun/2/23 1:41:30 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, on this point of order, we have had a number of accusations thrown around. I think everyone in this place understands that we are in a work environment where we are combining different time zones and different Internet capacity and that on Fridays we do not have votes. That is understood. I was at an event in Ottawa at one point and my phone would not work. It kept spinning and would not allow me to take a picture. We should be giving the benefit of the doubt to hon. members in this place. A review would be helpful, but I would also like hon. members to act honourably. All members have these challenges when working virtually, and to imply that certain members are in contempt of Parliament is straying into more partisan lines. This is a practical matter, and I hope the review is a practical one, not a partisan one.
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/2/23 1:42:45 p.m.
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As I indicated, there will be a request to have our technical team look into this. I hope that satisfies everybody so we can move on with orders of the day. The hon. Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of National Defence.
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Mr. Bryan May
  • Jun/2/23 1:43:00 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, I would like to point out that the obstruction happened before the vote as well. I did the whip walk, and for the first time ever in this House that I have seen, it was done by—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/2/23 1:43:15 p.m.
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That is not a point of order. As we have seen, sometimes it has not occurred that the two whips walk to the table. There is a point of order by the member for Northumberland—Peterborough South.
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Mr. Philip Lawrence
  • Jun/2/23 1:43:34 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, there is contempt. There is contempt for the lack of democratic process in this Liberal budget. That is what there is—
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The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes)
  • Jun/2/23 1:43:38 p.m.
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That is not a point of order; it is a point of debate. The hon. member for Cariboo—Prince George.
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Mr. Todd Doherty
  • Jun/2/23 1:43:59 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, in your investigation for the technical event that took place, I would ask you to consider that the member from the NDP who rose, when the New Democrats were in the official opposition, used dilatory motions and stall tactics—
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