44th Parl. 1st Sess.
June 2, 2023 10:00AM
- Jun/2/23 10:15:00 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I certainly respect any ruling you might make, but I did have my hand up prior to your saying that we would go to orders of the day after this. I would like my point of order heard before we—
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Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order before you make your decision on how to group report stage motions on Bill C-47, budget implementation act 2023, no. 1.
Before I get to the specifics of my request, let me say at the outset of my appeal to the Chair how disappointing it is that the debate on the budget has been shut down at every stage of the legislative process so far. In its rush, the government has, perhaps inadvertently, limited the ability of the finance committee to properly consider amendments, which may impact your decision in determining how to group motions for the debate at report stage and which substantive motions will be allowed to stand.
To remind the Chair, the budget tabled in the House on March 28—
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Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order before you make your decision on how to group report stage motions on Bill C-47, budget implementation act 2023, no. 1.
Before I get to the specifics of my request, let me say at the outset of my appeal to the Chair how disappointing it is that the debate on the budget has been shut down at every stage of the legislative process so far. In its rush, the government has, perhaps inadvertently, limited the ability of the finance committee to properly consider amendments, which may impact your decision in determining how to group motions for the debate at report stage and which substantive motions will be allowed to stand.
To remind the Chair, the budget tabled in the House on March 28—
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- Jun/2/23 10:21:11 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, as always, I appreciate your patience on these matters.
It is normal, of course, for a government to table a budget and then get a bump in the polls, but this budget is so unpopular with Canadians that the Liberals actually dropped in the polls after the finance minister tabled it in the House—
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- Jun/2/23 10:21:54 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I will jump ahead in my remarks here in order to expedite things, given your continued patience.
I will start here and, I promise, get to my point relatively quickly. This little bit of context is important and germane to my point. I am just going through the facts here.
On May 29, beginning at 4:30 p.m., the Chair was empowered by a programming motion to put every question necessary to dispose of the bill without further debate and then report the bill to the House. The Chair interrupted the programming motion in such a way that the amendments could not be table-dropped or moved from the floor. Instead, he ruled that the only amendments that could properly be moved were to the ones provided to the Clerk before May 19. Notably, this was before testimony was supposed to be wrapped up. He also ruled that subamendments could not be moved, because members would need the floor in order to move a subamendment, but he refused to allow debate under the programming motion.
These rulings by the member for Mississauga East—Cooksville made the committee even more dysfunctional but, importantly, at the heart of—
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- Jun/2/23 10:26:14 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, my point of order is a little different from what the member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan was saying, but I look forward to hearing his comments with respect to that.
I was literally stating the facts, which I believe, on a point of order, I am not only allowed but also obligated to do. Facts that I am describing are critical to the argument because, in order to introduce an amendment at report stage, it has to be established that it could not be made at committee. I was simply litigating the facts, and not debating, as per my point of order.
Relatively quickly, I will cite a couple of sections, Madam Speaker, if you would be so kind. I will then yield the floor.
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- Jun/2/23 10:38:35 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I will be brief. Having been at the finance committee, I know the violation of privilege happened. This is totally separate and distinct, as I mentioned earlier in my point of order, from the point of order on the allowance of amendments at report stage.
Points of privilege are, of course, incredibly critical to the functioning of the House. If the rules and the privileges are violated, it is incredibly challenging for the system and Parliament to continue.
I do not believe he is taking an unreasonable amount of time. The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan is simply laying down the appropriate citations, which any good lawyer would do in the court and, certainly, a parliamentarian would do here.
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- Jun/2/23 10:48:36 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I believe that the parliamentary secretary for finance was in the House without a jacket on, which I do not believe is—
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- Jun/2/23 10:49:04 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I believe that men are required to have a jacket at all times in the House. There are certain wardrobe requirements, and I believe wearing a T-shirt borders on being disrespectful to the House.
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- Jun/2/23 10:58:59 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, mine is on the same point. Please give the member—
The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Carol Hughes): Is yours a point of order or on the question of privilege?
Mr. Philip Lawrence: Mine is on the question of privilege.
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- Jun/2/23 11:39:56 a.m.
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Yes, it is working, Madam Speaker.
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- Jun/2/23 12:21:40 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, my point of order is with respect to the Minister of Tourism. I had intended to raise this issue earlier.
The Minister of Tourism, in responding to a question, said, “it is so nice to have so many friends from the blue team from Alberta”. This is doing indirectly what he cannot do directly. Of course, members cannot comment on the presence or absence of a member.
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- Jun/2/23 1:43:34 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, there is contempt. There is contempt for the lack of democratic process in this Liberal budget. That is what there is—
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