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44th Parl. 1st Sess.
June 2, 2023 10:00AM
  • Jun/2/23 10:18:26 a.m.
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One moment please. We have already started hearing part of what this is, but we have not heard what the point of order is that the hon. parliamentary secretary is saying. I will allow the hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan a point of order once we have heard the basics of this point of order.
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  • Jun/2/23 10:27:17 a.m.
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The hon. member is basing his arguments on an anticipated decision, and that has not happened yet. That point of order is not acceptable, and I will end it here. The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan can proceed with his question of privilege.
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  • Jun/2/23 10:30:38 a.m.
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This is not a point of order, but a question of privilege. I will allow the hon. member to continue. The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan has the floor.
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  • Jun/2/23 10:30:56 a.m.
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I want to remind the hon. parliamentary secretary that this is not a point of debate. This is a question of privilege, and a question of privilege is to be explained. However, there is limited time to bring forward the information the Speaker requires, so I would just ask the member to try to keep it as brief as possible. The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan has the floor.
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  • Jun/2/23 10:38:35 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I will be brief. Having been at the finance committee, I know the violation of privilege happened. This is totally separate and distinct, as I mentioned earlier in my point of order, from the point of order on the allowance of amendments at report stage. Points of privilege are, of course, incredibly critical to the functioning of the House. If the rules and the privileges are violated, it is incredibly challenging for the system and Parliament to continue. I do not believe he is taking an unreasonable amount of time. The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan is simply laying down the appropriate citations, which any good lawyer would do in the court and, certainly, a parliamentarian would do here.
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  • Jun/2/23 10:42:45 a.m.
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This is not a point of order. I do want to allow the hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan to provide his breach of privilege, and I would ask him to go directly to that breach of privilege. As I have indicated, it is not just about me. There are many rulings I have in my hands. When it comes to breaches of questions of privilege, all of the speakers have indicated that it needs to be brief, concise and to the point. I would ask the hon. member to get to his question of privilege. We have a point of order from the hon. member for Perth—Wellington.
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  • Jun/2/23 10:44:12 a.m.
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I am sorry, these are becoming points of debate. On the point of order, the hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan.
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  • Jun/2/23 10:44:47 a.m.
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These are becoming points of debate. I will hear this question of privilege. If the hon. parliamentary secretary has a question of privilege, I will hear it after. I would ask the hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan to get to his question of privilege now.
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  • Jun/2/23 10:48:10 a.m.
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We have quorum. The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan is on the right track and is being succinct with his points of order. I would ask him to finish up. The hon. member for Northumberland—Peterborough South is rising on a point of order.
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  • Jun/2/23 10:58:24 a.m.
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I do appreciate the additional information that the hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan has provided. I feel that I have enough information and I will get back to the House as soon as possible. The hon. member for Elmwood—Transcona.
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  • Jun/2/23 10:58:41 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, I just want to contribute some facts to the discussion of these questions of privilege that the member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan has raised.
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  • Jun/2/23 10:59:11 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, as a member of the committee on finance and somebody who was there during the times when the member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan alleges there were violations of privilege that went on, I just want to provide a couple of reflections for you, Madam Speaker, and some important facts for you to consider as you deliberate on these questions.
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  • Jun/2/23 12:17:14 p.m.
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I already do not have unanimous consent. There are individuals saying no. The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, on a point of order relating to question period.
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