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44th Parl. 1st Sess.
June 15, 2023 10:00AM
  • Jun/15/23 10:23:20 a.m.
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Madam Speaker, is the hon. member for real? Does he not ever get outside of the chamber and see what is happening in the real world? In the real world, where most of us live and where our constituents live, people are concerned about the fact that the government has allowed one of the most notorious sex offenders and murderers in Canada's history to be moved from a maximum-security prison to a medium-security prison. Canadians are outraged. They want answers. The more we peel back this onion, the more it stinks, and the more we realize how irresponsibly the government has acted. We realize it is their actions that have led to this consequence. Their inactions have led to this consequence. We make no apologies for standing up every day on behalf of victims of crime.
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  • Jun/15/23 12:58:42 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the member did not answer my question on Stephen Harper. Back in 2009, there was the horrific crime against Tori Stafford. Members can look it up to find out what took place. Stephen Harper's government ultimately transferred him over to a medium-security prison. He was not the first child murderer the Harper government did that with. The public safety minister at the time, Ralph Goodale, had the system reviewed. Does the member believe that Stephen Harper was doing something wrong by allowing the murderer of Tori Stafford to go to a medium-security prison?
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  • Jun/15/23 2:24:42 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we now know why the Prime Minister refuses to fire his incompetent and misleading public safety minister. It is that the Prime Minister himself was the one who accepted the transfer of Paul Bernardo from a maximum-security prison to a medium-security prison where he would have access to human interaction, more freedom and more comfort. His office knew three months beforehand, and his cabinet has the power to direct the correctional authorities to keep mass murderers in maximum-security prisons. Will the Prime Minister show the courage to stand on his feet and explain to victims of Paul Bernardo why he wanted to give this monster more freedom and comfort?
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  • Jun/15/23 2:26:07 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, based on that account, the Prime Minister knew the day of the transfer, and his office knew three months earlier. The government has, in the past, issued directives to the Correctional Service on what should be done with various classes of prisoners, like forcing those with contraband into dry prison cells, for example. In other words, the government does have the power to direct corrections on these issues. The Prime Minister and his office knew for three months. Given that he is here in Ottawa today, does he have the courage to explain his decision to let this monster go out of maximum-security penitentiary, yes or no?
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  • Jun/15/23 2:38:05 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, does the Minister of Public Safety expect us to believe that for three months his office withheld information from him that the most notorious murderer and serial rapist in Canada had been transferred to a medium-security prison? It is clear that the minister likely knew about the transfer in March and did nothing. The entire government likely knew and did nothing about it, including the Prime Minister's Office. When will the Prime Minister finally admit that he has lost total control of his cabinet and ask the minister to resign?
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  • Jun/15/23 2:41:26 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister is in Ottawa but, strangely enough, he is not rising to answer questions. The Minister of Public Safety feigned surprise last week when the criminal Paul Bernardo was transferred from a maximum-security prison to a medium-security prison, yet he had known about it for three months. In fact, even the Prime Minister's Office knew about it. No one did anything. Everyone looked the other way. This is Liberal incompetence in all its glory. When will the Minister of Public Safety resign?
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  • Jun/15/23 2:42:42 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, he knew that this dangerous criminal was going to be placed in a prison with fewer restrictions. He must also have known that this decision would outrage and worry the victims' families. The Minister of Public Safety has a less than stellar record, with questionable decisions, backtracking, and untruthful statements. If there is anybody in charge in this government who sees things clearly and manages things in the interests of Canadians and of victims, have them stand up and throw this minister out.
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  • Jun/15/23 2:47:32 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Liberal government put convicted murderer, kidnapper and child rapist Paul Bernardo into a medium-security prison. Meanwhile, the PM is in Ottawa. Why will he not stand up and answer the questions? In 2013, the Conservative government took responsibility when it was faced with exactly the same issue. Paul Bernardo was to be transferred to a medium-security prison and the Conservative government of the day said no. The public safety minister, including the Prime Minister himself, has said yes. Will the minister resign for granting leniency to the most notorious child murderer and rapist—
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