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44th Parl. 1st Sess.
September 19, 2023 10:00AM
  • Sep/19/23 10:41:46 a.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, I have a great liking for my colleague, the minister, and I hold him in high esteem. However, when I read Bill C-49, there was something that jumped out at me, and that is the name change. It incorporates the concept of clean energy. However, a careful reading shows that this bill applies mainly to offshore oil drilling. I hardly think offshore oil drilling qualifies as clean energy. I know that the minister criticized our Conservative colleague in the context of the devastating wildfires we went through this summer. We must listen to science. Sometimes, however, I get the impression that my colleagues in the Liberal Party are spinning the science and doing some greenwashing. I would like the minister to explain to us how exactly this bill applies to clean energy.
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  • Sep/19/23 11:14:26 a.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, my question is quite simple. The bill we are looking at appears to continue the Liberal trend. In other words, it claims to promote renewable energy, but, in reality, it makes no changes to the status quo and continues to encourage the development of the oil industry. We think that the government needs to start gradually reducing the size of that industry. My question is going to focus on two aspects. First, does the member think we need to start taking action to slow the effects of climate change? Second, during the study of this bill, is my colleague ready to start talking seriously about gradually, sensibly and intelligently reducing the size of the oil industry? Of course, the transition to renewable energy will include support for those who work in the oil industry.
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  • Sep/19/23 11:44:19 a.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, as I said at the beginning of my speech, respect for jurisdictions may not actually be an issue here. Given that the provincial premiers were willing parties to those discussions, I do not see this as an issue. While I do want everyone to bear in mind that natural resource development is under provincial jurisdiction, that is not an obstacle in this case. I would not say that the Bloc Québécois will never support this bill, but the reason we have trouble supporting it is that I get the sense that, once again, some people are trying to promote oil and gas development. They label it “clean energy”. In this particular case, the end goal is to promote the oil sector. The thing is, the goal should actually be to cut back on development. That is the problem with Bill C‑49.
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  • Sep/19/23 11:46:17 a.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, in discussions about the oil and gas sector and the fact that we have to reduce our fossil fuel consumption, I always get a laugh out of Conservative members who talk about clean energy sources that rely on petroleum products. I just want to point out that oil sands oil is the dirtiest oil in the world. When we invest energy and money in those resources, which are used by Albertans and all Canadians, we cannot invest those resources in renewable energy. We have to stop clinging to the illusion of clean oil and liberate ourselves from oil and gas. That is what every country wants to do. We have to stop talking about things that are not backed up by science and making up facts such as, say, there is a carbon tax in Quebec. That is not true; it is a lie. Politicians who say things like that discredit themselves.
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  • Sep/19/23 1:36:29 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for the passion and exuberance he displayed during his speech. I agree with him completely. The climate events we are experiencing, such as flooding, forest fires and various changes, are significant. What exactly are oil and gas regulations? Can my colleague clarify what his government plans to do about oil and gas and the environment?
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  • Sep/19/23 3:51:04 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, the minister spoke about the importance of petroleum drilling projects like Hibernia and White Rose to his province. I am sure he is aware that within the NDP-Liberal government, there are those who continually war on oil and gas and want to shut it down. Is he not concerned that Bill C-49 contains measures that would give cabinet the power to decide on a whim to shut down important projects like Hibernia and White Rose without provincial input or necessary indigenous consultation?
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  • Sep/19/23 4:27:32 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, I would say that it is a global problem. If we look at the percentage of the global problem that is due to people using heavy oil and coal, we can talk about that 50% and how Canada's LNG could actually cut that by 75%. That would be something worth doing in the world. Instead, our 18 LNG projects were cancelled. Can we guess what happened then? The 18 LNG projects popped up in the Nordic countries, so the carbon footprint did not leave the planet; only the jobs and prosperity for Canadians did.
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  • Sep/19/23 4:57:07 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, at first glance, Bill C‑49 does not seem to do away with the annual process for the auction and sale of exploratory drilling permits. Why then was the word “petroleum” removed from the names of the two boards if their mission still involves offshore oil and gas development? Is this more smoke and mirrors from the Liberals when it comes to the environment?
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