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House Hansard - 232

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
October 16, 2023 11:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 232 - Oct/16/23
Hon. Jonathan Wilkinson
  • Oct/16/23 12:19:58 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, as we fight the existential threat that is climate change, we must have an economic plan for the future that is going to create good jobs and economic opportunity in every province of this country. This bill is an important part of doing that, particularly with respect to Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and Labrador. I would suggest to the hon. member that perhaps he sit down and have a conversation with the Conservative premier of Nova Scotia about those issues.
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Context: House Hansard - 232 - Oct/16/23
Hon. Jonathan Wilkinson
  • Oct/16/23 12:31:12 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, as I said, it is important to move this legislation to committee expeditiously and eventually out of Parliament in order to seize the economic opportunities that are there but will not be there forever. There are other countries that are looking at seizing those. I would say to my hon. colleague that, in terms of climate change, absolute emissions in Saskatchewan have gone up. They have not gone down. Saskatchewan is one of the few provinces in this country that has no climate target, in terms of actually reducing emissions by 2030. We would love to see Saskatchewan join the ranks of many provinces and territories in this country that have a fulsome climate plan that includes a climate target.
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Context: House Hansard - 232 - Oct/16/23
Mr. Frank Caputo
  • Oct/16/23 12:32:02 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, it is always a pleasure to rise on behalf of the people of Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo. This minister keeps on talking about how, perhaps, the member opposite, should have a conversation with the provincial premier, and speaks about climate plans. Let us face the facts here. If we want to talk in facts, this is a government that has missed every single climate projection possible. The minister talks about the fact that we need to think about the environment. The world's biggest polluter is China, and his colleague, the Minister of Environment and Climate Change went to China. What did we hear about the environment? We get lectured domestically, constantly. What did we hear about their interactions? Crickets. How can the minister stand here today and say that we need to start talking about this with everybody, when his own government does not have the guts to take a stand against large-scale emitters?
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Context: House Hansard - 232 - Oct/16/23
Hon. Jonathan Wilkinson
  • Oct/16/23 12:32:58 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, I would say that folks in this chamber are certainly entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts. The only climate target that the government has ever had was a 2030 target. We actually moved to upgrade that target from a 30% below 2005, to 40% to 45%. It is a target that we will achieve. It is the only target that we have ever had. When Conservatives stand up and talk about the fact that the Liberal government has missed a target, they are simply saying things that are not true.
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Context: House Hansard - 232 - Oct/16/23
Ms. Kristina Michaud (Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, BQ)
  • Oct/16/23 5:22:00 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, I do not think that it is necessarily a bad thing to want to regulate the marine energy industry in eastern Canada. However, we are not talking only about future wind energy projects. For example, this bill also addresses oil and gas exploration and development. At a time when we are in a climate emergency, and when scientists tell us that we must quickly stop using fossil fuels, does my colleague believe it makes sense that his government wants to double oil production within the next few years?
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Context: House Hansard - 232 - Oct/16/23
Mr. Alexandre Boulerice (Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie, NDP)
  • Oct/16/23 5:45:45 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, I know that my colleague is very concerned about the climate crisis, but protecting biodiversity and the goal of protecting 30% of marine areas by 2030 are also part of the discussion. Now we are finding out that, for the Liberal government, the area is only protected until we find [Technical difficulty—Editor].
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Context: House Hansard - 232 - Oct/16/23
Ms. Kristina Michaud
  • Oct/16/23 5:47:34 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-49 
Madam Speaker, I believe my colleague was referring to one of the key issues negotiated at COP15, which Canada co-chaired with China last year. One of the commitments was to protect or conserve at least 30% of the world's oceans through marine protected areas. As I said earlier, the Liberal government did decide to protect certain areas, but then it changed its mind and opened them up to oil and gas exploration. That is somewhat contradictory. I cannot help but think that the Liberal government and its Minister of Environment and Climate Change should not be leading this UN conference while also continuing to drill for oil and gas in their own country's waters. I think my colleague and I feel the same way about this.
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