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House Hansard - 247

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
November 6, 2023 11:00AM
  • Nov/6/23 11:07:13 a.m.
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I thank the member for raising this issue. Indeed, I did make that statement, but quite quickly it was brought to my attention by some hon. members that the adjectives used were considered to be fair game. Therefore, I have relented in pursuing that point. I thank the hon. member, and I would encourage all members to try to be judicious. Continuing debate, the hon. member for Burnaby South.
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  • Nov/6/23 2:47:22 p.m.
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I am going to ask all members, especially the member for Battle River—Crowfoot, to please listen to the responses that are to offered. I would ask all members to listen to that member when that member does take the floor. The hon. member for London—Fanshawe.
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  • Nov/6/23 3:08:38 p.m.
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I would like to encourage all members to please hold their comments until they have the floor to ask a question or to give an answer. That way we can hear everything that is going on from one end of the House to the other end of the House. The hon. minister.
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  • Nov/6/23 3:09:51 p.m.
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Once again, before I return to the member for Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, I will ask all colleagues to please when they have the floor, use it, but when they do not have the floor, listen to the person who does. I would like to give the hon. member for Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman the opportunity to start his question from the top.
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  • Nov/6/23 3:11:32 p.m.
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I would have liked to have heard the end of the the hon. member's question. Unfortunately, his time had expired, and then some. This is the reason why it is important for both sides of the House to allow a member to ask a question without interrupting, so we can hear the question and the member can profit from the full time to which the member would be entitled. The hon. parliamentary secretary.
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  • Nov/6/23 3:20:07 p.m.
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Colleagues, I would like to thank the member for Battle River—Crowfoot and other members who rose on the same issue. I would like to thank the hon. member for Etobicoke Centre for rising to apologize. This is a good opportunity for me to remind all members that, while the House is in session, we are not to use our devices for phone calls or for recording. These rules are important for all of us, so we can freely exercise our roles as members of Parliament. As we know, we have very clear rules in terms of how the cameras provided by CPAC are used in this place. With the advent of new technologies, we have to be very mindful, so I thank all members for that. I see the hon. whip for the official opposition rising on the same point of order.
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  • Nov/6/23 3:21:36 p.m.
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I am certain that all members, who are listening carefully to the Chair, will take it upon themselves to act honourably. I think what the hon. member has raised is an important issue, and I would trust that, when the member presented his apology, he also took corrective action to that effect.
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  • Nov/6/23 3:23:25 p.m.
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It being 3:22 p.m., the House will now proceed to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of the member for Carleton relating to the business of supply. Call in the members.
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  • Nov/6/23 3:36:25 p.m.
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We are getting close to debate. I see the hon. member for Avalon rising in response to the point of order.
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  • Nov/6/23 3:36:54 p.m.
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The hon. opposition whip.
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  • Nov/6/23 3:37:21 p.m.
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Colleagues, we had a point of order raising a very serious issue of comportment, decorum and respect in the House. The member to whom it was directed rose and indicated that this was not done on purpose. I am placed in a very difficult situation. If hon. colleagues will allow me, I will take a look at this issue, but let me say this. When members are offered an opportunity to explain their actions and they do, usually the matter is closed. This has raised some disorder in the House. I will take a look at it, and if necessary, I will come back to the House. I hope this will be the end of the points of order on this particular issue. The hon. member for South Shore—St. Margarets is rising on a point of order.
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  • Nov/6/23 3:39:28 p.m.
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I just indicated to all members of the House that I am going to take a look at the video and will come back to members if it is necessary. The hon. member for Northumberland—Peterborough South is rising on a point of order.
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  • Nov/6/23 3:39:42 p.m.
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I heard the point raised by the hon. member. It is a very serious point. The hon. member it concerned rose to offer an explanation. I am going to review the video on this and come back to the House if necessary. The hon. member for Gatineau.
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  • Nov/6/23 3:40:36 p.m.
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That strikes me as being on the same matter, and I have already explained to this House what I am going to do on it. If there are no related points of order on this, I am going to suggest that we move on to the business of the House. I recognize the hon. member for Battle River—Crowfoot and hope he heard my statement.
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  • Nov/6/23 3:41:55 p.m.
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Let me assure all members that I understood very clearly the substance of what was raised and the act that was raised. I offered the member who was accused of doing the act an opportunity to explain it to the House and present his apologies. The member gave an explanation. I am going to take this matter back. There is no more reason for us to dispute this matter, aside from holding up the affairs of this House. Let me reassure all members that I look at all of their interventions very carefully, but at this point, I have not heard a new point of order being raised. The hon. member for Grande Prairie—Mackenzie.
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  • Nov/6/23 3:43:04 p.m.
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I am going to ask the hon. member for Grande Prairie—Mackenzie to get right to the point so we can move on with the affairs of the House.
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  • Nov/6/23 3:44:28 p.m.
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I regret that the member feels this way. However, as Chair, I feel that I have heard the point raised by the chief whip of the opposition. It was an important point and very well made. I wanted to hear if there were any new points related to it and no new points were raised. I asked the hon. member to rise and he offered his excuse. I indicated to all members, based on what was raised by the hon. whip of the opposition, that I am going to look at this matter and come back to this House if it is necessary to do so. I hope the member for Miramichi is rising on a new point of order. If it is the same one, I think I have heard enough and we should move on to the next item of the House.
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  • Nov/6/23 3:46:05 p.m.
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This was— Some hon. members: Oh, oh! The Speaker: It is because the Chair is standing up. I am going to allow the member to— Some hon. members: Oh, oh! The Speaker: I am going to ask the hon. member— Some hon. members: Oh, oh! The Speaker: This is the reason why microphones are sometimes turned off: to preserve the honour of the House when there are conversations happening back and forth without people having the floor. No member, I can guarantee, has ever been cut off in terms of making their presentation, posing a question or giving an answer, with the exception of the time when the Speaker is up. This matter has been brought up with House leaders. I have talked about this issue and it is being addressed. The hon. member for Miramichi—Grand Lake, on a new matter, I would hope.
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  • Nov/6/23 3:47:34 p.m.
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On the same point of order, the hon. parliamentary secretary. I hope he will come straight to the point.
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