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House Hansard - 257

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
November 28, 2023 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 257 - Nov/28/23
Mr. James Bezan
  • Nov/28/23 1:06:04 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, on the same point of order, I want to correct the parliamentary secretary on his comments. As he knows, it was the Liberal Prime Minister who appointed all those senators, making them Liberal senators.
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Context: House Hansard - 257 - Nov/28/23
Mr. Warren Steinley (Regina—Lewvan, CPC)
Mr. Speaker, I listened to my hon. colleague's whole speech. He did not mention Bill C-234 or the Senate at all. Very simply, over the last week, how many Liberal-appointed senators did the environment minister call to try to bully them and convince them to vote against this bill?
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Context: House Hansard - 257 - Nov/28/23
Mr. Warren Steinley
  • Nov/28/23 1:08:43 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I believe my colleague did not hear me. I said “Liberal-appointed senators”, because the Prime Minister is a Liberal and he did appoint these senators. Therefore, there are Liberal-appointed senators.
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Context: House Hansard - 257 - Nov/28/23
Mr. Francesco Sorbara
  • Nov/28/23 1:08:58 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, whether it is a point of order or a point of debate, I think that is something that is always good to clarify. With regard to the senators that have been appointed, there is a process that all senators have to do. Here in Ontario, there are members appointed by the Conservative provincial government, which appoints members to put forward names for the Senate process, along with federal representatives. They do it together in collaboration. That list goes forward as an independent process that happens here in the province of Ontario. I know independence is a foreign word to my opposition friends and colleagues, but independence it is. The Senate is a place for sober second thought. It is doing its job. It should do it judiciously and diligently and move forward.
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Context: House Hansard - 257 - Nov/28/23
Mr. Francis Scarpaleggia
  • Nov/28/23 4:54:25 p.m.
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Madam Speaker, this is another thing we have been hearing ad nauseam, which is the idea that there are Liberal senators in the Senate. I have been here for quite a while, and I remember, and the hon. member from Winnipeg remembers as well, when we decoupled from the Senate. Now the senators are appointed there by the Prime Minister because they are independent spirits. They are independent thinkers who are highly qualified and, quite frankly, have minds of their own.
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