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44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 3, 2024 10:00AM
  • May/3/24 11:32:46 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the Liberals continue to insist that they do not have enough data from the B.C. government to end the open drug use of hard drugs, such as cocaine or fentanyl, on streets, in playgrounds and in hospitals in British Columbia. The B.C. government confirmed that it sent the Liberals the data that they requested within hours of asking. However, if the minister cannot make a decision, why not consider the fact that more British Columbians sadly died of overdoses in January and February of 2024 than in all of 2014? Why are the Liberals not being honest with Canadians and just end their radical drug policy?
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  • May/3/24 11:33:23 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, every step of the way, we have been working hand in hand with provincial jurisdictions, communities and municipalities across this country. We are speaking to families and health teams to understand how we can save lives. We are working with the province of B.C. on the amendment to its proposal. We need to get it right. We need to make sure that communities are safe, but we also need to make sure that people are not dying alone, that they are getting the health care services they need. We cannot treat someone if they are dead. We are committed to saving lives.
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  • May/3/24 11:34:18 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, if the member thinks that B.C.'s experience with open public drug use is so great, then why is she not advocating for it in her province? I was talking to a resident just two days ago from my— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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  • May/3/24 11:34:42 a.m.
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We are getting a lot of yelling back and forth, and I would appreciate it if members could keep it down. I am hearing a lot from all sides of the chamber. I want to make sure that we keep the volume down as we debate these important issues. The hon. member for Kelowna—Lake Country has the floor.
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  • May/3/24 11:34:42 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, if the member thinks that the B.C. experience with open public drug use is so great, then why is she not advocating for it in her own province? I was talking to a resident from my community just a couple nights ago who told me that she came around the corner from her apartment to be faced with something that burnt her eyes. People were openly using drugs on the street. She is rightfully concerned about what she is being exposed to. Unfortunately, this is not an isolated incident. After nine years of the Prime Minister, enough is enough. Why are the Liberals not being honest with Canadians and just end their drug policies?
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  • May/3/24 11:35:20 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, that question has been asked many times and answered many times by my hon. colleague, the minister. I want to know something. The member is a female member of her caucus. This morning, a headline reads, “Conservatives don’t rule out using notwithstanding clause beyond criminal justice matters”. Fifty years ago, Roe v. Wade was enacted in the U.S., and women have lived under that protection in the U.S. for 50 years. For 42 years— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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  • May/3/24 11:35:51 a.m.
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Order. This goes all ways. Members need to keep it down so I can hear the questions and the answers. The hon. government House leader has the floor.
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  • May/3/24 11:36:07 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, for 50 years, women in the U.S. have lived under the protection of Roe v. Wade. For 42 years, women in Canada have lived under the protection of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Conservatives will now not rule out using the notwithstanding clause beyond criminal justice matters. Will the member stand in her place to tell us what rights she intends to take away from women?
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  • May/3/24 11:36:56 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, after nine years of the Liberal-NDP Prime Minister, it is clear that he is not worth the crime, the chaos, the drugs or the disorder. As a result of his extremist drug policies, we have open drug use in front of an elementary school in Langley, discarded needles at a playground in Willoughby and crack smoking at a bus stop in Brookswood. People from Langley want to know when the Prime Minister is going to end his extremist experiment to legalize hard drugs, such as cocaine, fentanyl and opioids.
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  • May/3/24 11:37:30 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I will say this again: We have to approach the opioid crisis and the illegal toxic drug supply with compassion, science, evidence and health care. On this side of the House, we all want the same thing, which is public safety and access to public health care services so that people do not die alone. We are approaching the issue of public consumption with urgency, working with the B.C. government on its requested amendments to its proposal. B.C. asked for this exemption. We will continue to work with it hand in hand because families are demanding it of us. They do not want to lose their loved ones. On this side of the House, we will save lives.
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  • May/3/24 11:38:11 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the result are in, and they are a disaster, with 2,500 opioid— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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  • May/3/24 11:38:19 a.m.
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Order. If I need to shut things down over here, then I need to shut things down over there. Let us try to keep the chatter down. The hon. member for Langley—Aldergrove has the floor.
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  • May/3/24 11:38:28 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the results are in. They are a disaster, with 2,500 deaths last year and six, on average, every day this year. The Liberal minister responsible for hard drug use says that she is waiting for more information from B.C., but the B.C. government says that it has given her all of the information, as if 2,500 drug deaths in one year is not enough data to go on. Canadians want to know why Liberals are misleading them. When are they going to put an end to this disastrous, failed drug use experiment?
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  • May/3/24 11:39:07 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, that question has been asked and answered. B.C. has been making adjustments to its pilot project. Of course, we are supporting that. I had no luck with the last member. Let me ask this member if Conservatives will not rule out using the notwithstanding clause— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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  • May/3/24 11:39:24 a.m.
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Order. As I have said before, if I need to shut the noise down in one corner of the room, then I need to shut it down in the other corner of the room. Please let the hon. member respond so that we can get on to the next question. The hon. government House leader may continue, from the top.
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  • May/3/24 11:39:38 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, of course, B.C. is making adjustments to its pilot project, and we are supporting it in that endeavour. The member should be under no ambiguity about that. However, the member is ambiguous, just like his previous colleague, about which charter protections his party would rip up. Is it reproductive rights? Is it the right to a fair trial? Is it the right to free expression? That member, that party and that leader need to get up to tell Canadians exactly which fundamental charter rights they will be taking away from Canadians.
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  • May/3/24 11:40:30 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, after nine years, the Prime Minister is clearly not worth the cost. His minister responsible for hard drugs on the streets is misleading Canadians. She said that the Liberal government is waiting for more information from B.C. on if it should reverse its decision that allows cocaine, opioids and fentanyl in parks, playgrounds and hospitals. The B.C. NDP government confirmed that it answered, within hours, the government's request for more information. Why is the Liberal-NDP government misleading Canadians, and why can it not just end its disastrous drug policy?
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  • May/3/24 11:41:08 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, that member needs to unplug from the wall, replug and reboot. He is not listening to the earlier questions. We have told them, very clearly, that B.C. has requested changes, and we are working with B.C. to make those changes. Maybe that member will tell us, specifically, which freedoms and which rights described in the 42-year-old Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which Canadians cherish, he will be advocating for removing from Canadian women and from Canadian people. Is it the freedom of expression? Is it reproductive rights?
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  • May/3/24 11:41:49 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I would like to remind the member that his government illegally invoked the Emergencies Act, removing civil liberties from Canadians. After nine years of radical NDP-Liberal government drug policies, and with the toxic drug deaths in B.C. reaching a 380% increase, the number of children aged 10 to 18 who have died from overdoses has increased by more than five times. Opioids and illicit drugs are now the leading cause of death of youth aged 10 to 18 in B.C. Will the Prime Minister end his radical drug policies, or will he continue to show he is simply not worth the cost?
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  • May/3/24 11:42:57 a.m.
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Mr. Speaker, there are right ways to go about things, and then there are explosive, dramatic and catastrophic ways to go about things. In talking about using the notwithstanding clause, the Leader of the Opposition's response was, “All of my proposals are constitutional, and we will make them constitutional using whatever tools the Constitution allows me to use to make them constitutional. I think you know exactly what I mean”, he says. “They will happen, and they will stay in place.” For anybody like me, who has a right that was afforded to him because of this charter in my lifetime, these are chilling words that they—
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