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House Hansard - 316

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 23, 2024 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 316 - May/23/24
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  • May/23/24 9:32:26 p.m.
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The hon. member for Louis-Saint-Laurent.
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Mr. Gérard Deltell
  • May/23/24 9:32:28 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, he asked for two independent opinions. Has the minister read these opinions?
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 9:32:37 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, once again, as I see it, the Delisle case underscores the importance of changing the process to look for more—
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The Speaker
  • May/23/24 9:32:44 p.m.
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The hon. member for Louis-Saint-Laurent.
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Mr. Gérard Deltell
  • May/23/24 9:32:45 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, does the current minister want the two opinions that Minister Lametti solicited to be made public, yes or no?
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 9:32:53 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, Mr. Delisle's situation highlights the fact that we need to change the process and avoid—
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The Speaker
  • May/23/24 9:33:03 p.m.
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The hon. member for Louis-Saint-Laurent.
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Mr. Gérard Deltell
  • May/23/24 9:33:05 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, is the minister aware that the fact that Minister Lametti was asked for two opinions and he never made them public has undermined the credibility of the justice system? Is he aware of that?
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 9:33:18 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the situation we are talking about right now, like any other situation, includes private details that are still confidential and protected by the—
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The Speaker
  • May/23/24 9:33:33 p.m.
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The hon. member for Louis-Saint-Laurent.
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Mr. Gérard Deltell
  • May/23/24 9:33:34 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, does the minister know who the director of criminal and penal prosecutions, or DCPP, in Quebec is? Does he know who that is?
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 9:33:42 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we follow the guidelines that fall under our jurisdiction at the federal level when it comes to a miscarriage of justice such as this.
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Mr. Gérard Deltell
  • May/23/24 9:33:53 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the director of criminal and penal prosecutions spoke out about Mr. Lametti's action, saying that he and his staff did not even know these opinions existed and that this does not help them understand. On the contrary, it makes the minister's decision to order a new trial even harder to understand. Does the minister agree with Mr. Michel?
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The Speaker
  • May/23/24 9:34:10 p.m.
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Before the minister answers the question, I would like to make sure that everyone waits until they are recognized by the Chair before speaking.
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 9:34:12 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I want to note that it is up to a minister, whether that is me or my predecessor, to make the decision to refer a case. Nonetheless, the final decision is always made by a court, whether it is a lower court or a court of appeal.
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Mr. Gérard Deltell
  • May/23/24 9:34:38 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, Patrick Michel said that Minister Lametti's decision “not only discredits the administration of justice, it also discredits the review process for wrongful convictions”. Is the minister proud of his predecessor?
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 9:34:54 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-40 
Mr. Speaker, Mr. Lametti, whom I worked with as parliamentary secretary, did extraordinary work during his more than four years in the position. I can note that the context we are discussing now illustrates the need to completely change the process with Bill C‑40—
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The Speaker
  • May/23/24 9:35:11 p.m.
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The hon. member for Louis-Saint-Laurent.
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Mr. Gérard Deltell
  • May/23/24 9:35:13 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, is the minister aware that the issue is not about processes, but the actions of his predecessor, Mr. Lametti, who tossed out the CCRG's report? Is he aware of the fact that he went against what the CCRG was saying?
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The Speaker
  • May/23/24 9:35:27 p.m.
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The member's time is up, unfortunately, but I will allow the minister 10 seconds to answer.
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