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House Hansard - 316

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 23, 2024 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 316 - May/23/24
The Speaker
  • May/23/24 10:27:38 p.m.
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The hon. minister has run out of time. We will move on to the hon. member for Brantford—Brant.
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Mr. Larry Brock (Brantford—Brant, CPC)
  • May/23/24 10:27:45 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I would like to state at the outset I will be sharing my time with the member for Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo and the member for Regina—Qu'Appelle. To the minister, through you, Mr. Speaker, how much is your gun grab going to cost Canadians?
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Hon. Arif Virani (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada, Lib.)
  • May/23/24 10:28:04 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Mr. Speaker, I would not use that terminology. I would say that when we put a national freeze on handgun sales through a bill like Bill C-21, we are keeping victims safe.
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Mr. Larry Brock
  • May/23/24 10:28:14 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the minister can reject the language all he wants. The fact is that the question is very relevant. How much is the gun grab going to cost Canadians, for the second time, minister?
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 10:28:28 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I think the better question would be on how much not addressing gun violence would cost Canadians in terms of their mental health and their physical health.
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Mr. Larry Brock
  • May/23/24 10:28:37 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, it is clear Canadians are being denied the opportunity of hearing from Canada's chief legal officer, so I will supply the answer to Canadians, because clearly the minister does not want to provide clarity, transparency or accountability on the issue. The answer is $40 million. How many guns has your government collected so far?
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 10:29:07 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Mr. Speaker, through bills like Bill C-21 and through funding allocations that the member voted against, what we are putting in place are tools for the CBSA and the RCMP to interdict guns and gun trafficking to get them out of the hands of criminals and people who would do harm in our country.
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Mr. Larry Brock
  • May/23/24 10:29:26 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, it is so difficult for Canada's chief legal officer to be honest with Canadians, so I am going to ask the question again. How many guns has the Government of Canada collected so far?
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 10:29:47 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, what I would say, in terms of transparency, is that the member opposite's voting record includes voting against $83 million in funding through supplementary estimates (B) that would help with gun and gang violence in this country.
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Mr. Larry Brock
  • May/23/24 10:30:00 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I will ask the question again, very slowly, because clearly the minister has great difficulty understanding the question. What is the number? How many guns have been collected, minister?
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The Speaker
  • May/23/24 10:30:18 p.m.
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Questions should be posed through the Chair, not directly to members. I would also remind all members to wait for their name to be recognized before taking the time. It does cut off the time that they have to respond. The hon. minister has 16 seconds to reply.
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 10:30:44 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Mr. Speaker, with respect to Bill C-21, I would just underscore that it also includes red flag and yellow flag provisions. As a former Crown, the member opposite will appreciate that they will help keep people safe through an emergency weapons prohibition order to immediately remove a firearm for up to 30 days from an individual who may pose a danger to themselves or others, such as the member's constituents in Brantford—Brant.
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Mr. Larry Brock
  • May/23/24 10:31:10 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, again, it is incumbent upon the opposition to provide Canadians with transparency on this particular question. The answer is zero, to no surprise. Here is the next question: How many guns will $40 million collect off the streets?
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 10:31:34 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Mr. Speaker, I just want to underscore that Bill C-21, which the member voted against, actually proposed to increase maximum penalties from 10 year of imprisonments to 14 years for firearms-related offences, including firearms smuggling and trafficking, which is a pressing issue not just in his riding but everywhere around the country.
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Mr. Larry Brock
  • May/23/24 10:31:55 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, clearly, he does not understand the question, so perhaps I will rephrase it. For $40 million, how many guns will that collect, minister?
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Mr. Mark Gerretsen
  • May/23/24 10:32:08 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, on a point of order, that was at least the fourth time that the member directed his questions directly to the minister while asking a question and saying “minister”, “you” or “your”. Perhaps the Chair could remind the member of the rules and remind him that all questions need to be asked through the Chair?
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The Speaker
  • May/23/24 10:32:24 p.m.
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We appreciate that. The hon. member heard the intervention. The hon. minister still has nine seconds on the clock to respond to the member for Brantford—Brant.
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 10:32:36 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-21 
Mr. Speaker, what Bill C-21 will also do is improve the ability of CBSA to manage inadmissibility to Canada when foreign nationals commit firearms-related offences upon entry into this country.
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Mr. Larry Brock
  • May/23/24 10:32:52 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I would like just the number, through you.
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 10:33:00 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the number of women, potentially, who are going to be safeguarded through—
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