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House Hansard - 316

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
May 23, 2024 10:00AM
Context: House Hansard - 316 - May/23/24
Mr. Frank Caputo
  • May/23/24 10:35:42 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, would Constable Pierzchala's alleged killer have been detained on the bail law that the minister has lauded so many times today?
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 10:35:49 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, Constable Pierzchala's death was a tragedy, and it motivated us to act, and act quickly. I am thankful for the support of that member in terms of the quick passage of that bill.
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Mr. Frank Caputo
  • May/23/24 10:36:13 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, without the minister looking at his cheat sheets, what are the tertiary grounds of detention?
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 10:36:22 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, it is important always to be looking at confidence in the administration of justice.
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The Speaker
  • May/23/24 10:36:29 p.m.
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Order. I am going to invite members, if they would like to have a conversation, to please do so outside. The hon. member for Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo has the floor to ask questions. It is important that the minister be able to hear that question and to be able to respond. The hon. member for Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo.
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Mr. Frank Caputo
  • May/23/24 10:36:51 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, does the Minister of Justice have a King's Counsel designation, yes or no?
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 10:37:00 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I do not have a King's Counsel designation.
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Mr. Frank Caputo
  • May/23/24 10:37:05 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-5 
Mr. Speaker, what was the minimum sentence for robbery with a firearm prior to Bill C-5?
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 10:37:16 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I believe it is governed by section 457 of the code.
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Mr. Frank Caputo
  • May/23/24 10:37:23 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-5 
Mr. Speaker, it was section 344, but what was the mandatory minimum sentence for robbery with a firearm prior to Bill C-5?
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 10:37:40 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, it is four years for non-restricted or five or seven for a restricted.
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Mr. Frank Caputo
  • May/23/24 10:37:47 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-5 
Mr. Speaker, did Bill C-5 eliminate the non-restricted mandatory minimum penalty, yes or no?
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 10:37:56 p.m.
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  • Re: Bill C-5 
Mr. Speaker, Bill C-5 dealt with a number of issues that relate to mandatory minimum penalties, including the overrepresentation of indigenous and Black people in our justice system.
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Mr. Frank Caputo
  • May/23/24 10:38:10 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, is there still a mandatory minimum penalty for robbery with a non-restricted firearm, yes or no?
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 10:38:22 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, as I mentioned earlier in today's discussion, there remains a mandatory minimum penalty for people who are involved in a robbery with a restricted firearm, of five—
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The Speaker
  • May/23/24 10:38:32 p.m.
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The hon. member for Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo.
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Mr. Frank Caputo
  • May/23/24 10:38:34 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I am so glad the minister clarified that there is a mandatory minimum penalty for robbing somebody with a restricted or prohibited firearm. Does the minister think that this is what goes through somebody's head? “I am going to go commit a robbery of that 7-Eleven. Wait a minute. This is a restricted or prohibited firearm. Hold off. I am not doing it.” Does the minister think that is what goes through someone's head?
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Hon. Arif Virani
  • May/23/24 10:39:00 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, what is important to reflect on with respect to the mandatory minimum penalty discussion are the words of Ben Perrin, the former chief legal adviser to Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who said, “MMPs are ineffective at reducing crime, may actually increase recidivism, are highly vulnerable to being struck down by courts as unconstitutional, can increase delays in an overburdened system and perpetuate—
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The Speaker
  • May/23/24 10:39:22 p.m.
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The hon. member.
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Mr. Frank Caputo
  • May/23/24 10:39:25 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, if there are drive-by shootings with no mandatory minimum penalty, are you okay with that? An hon. member: I have a point of order.
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