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House Hansard - 328

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
June 10, 2024 11:00AM
  • Jun/10/24 2:53:43 p.m.
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For members of Parliament who are asking questions, I would ask their neighbours to make sure their earphones are away from the microphone.
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  • Jun/10/24 2:54:30 p.m.
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We are going to suspend the House for a couple of minutes as we explore this issue further.
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  • Jun/10/24 3:39:58 p.m.
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Colleagues, I thank you for the patience you showed while we made changes to our process. I would like to thank all members for their patience. Before we continue with question period, I would like to just take a moment to explain the delay. First of all, I would like to reassure all members, as many members have come up to the Chair wanting to know if any interpreter had been injured. I am pleased and relieved to report that no interpreters were injured as a result of this feedback. We do have a protocol in place to ensure workplace safety for our interpreters. The Larsen effect is a very serious effect for our interpreters. Their ears are their tools, and their ears help us, of course, do the work that we do here in the House. I am going to ask members, out of an abundance of caution, that if their earphone is not on their ear, to please put them in the desk. That way, we will ensure that interpreters are not injured in the House of Commons. I would also like to thank our new team of interpreters. As per protocol, when a situation like this arises, a new team is put in place. Let us thank these interpreters for their work. Also, one last thing, thank goodness we have the clerk to remind me. Members will find that the default setting on their earphones has now been set to low. So for those who are expecting interpretation, they will have to turn up the microphone. We will continue where we left off. The hon. member for Thornhill, from the top.
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  • Jun/10/24 3:42:31 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, that was a very long way to say no, and Canadians deserve to know the truth. The Liberal responses have been a convoluted, finger-pointing exercise of secret committees or, worse, a dismissive “Boo hoo, get over it” from someone who once sat on the very committee that released this damning report. If they will not tell the truth, I will ask the minister one more time. Will the Liberals send every document, unredacted, with names, to Justice Hogue so she can release them?
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  • Jun/10/24 3:43:07 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, it is a shame that the Conservatives want to heckle and the irony is in the fact that they want to misrepresent what happened at committee. While Conservatives play partisan games, we are steadfast and focused on countering foreign interference and putting in place the measures that will strengthen our democratic institutions. It is ironic that the Conservatives bring up NSICOP, a committee they voted against and in fact also pulled members off at one point. We are going to do everything to ensure that our democratic institutions are protected from foreign interference.
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  • Jun/10/24 3:43:55 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the truth is that this Prime Minister has a long and troubled history when it comes to foreign interference, whether it involves political financing, his admiration for the basic dictatorship of the Communist regime in Beijing, or his talent for turning a blind eye to reports from the intelligence community. The National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians courageously exposed the fact that the Prime Minister has known for a long time that members have been wittingly co-operating with hostile foreign states. After nine years of hiding, will the Prime Minister finally be transparent and tell Canadians who they are?
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  • Jun/10/24 3:44:27 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, my colleague opposite knows very well that it was this Prime Minister and this government that established, over the objection of the member opposite, the committee of parliamentarians, which oversees our intelligence agencies. Had it not been for these initiatives and the very tough set of measures taken to counter foreign interference, we would not know what we know today, and the member, despite being opposed, would not have had the information that he wishes to have today.
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  • Jun/10/24 3:45:08 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the government has had to be dragged kicking and screaming every step of the way to get answers on foreign interference. That is the truth. The Prime Minister knows that. He knows the names. He has consistently refused to act. No Liberal MP has suffered any consequences, even though he knows the names. Well, hiding behind classified information to avoid taking action to protect Canada's interests is no longer an excuse. Since he refuses to be transparent with Canadians, will he accept the common‑sense Conservative proposal to share the names and facts about the MPs who are colluding with foreign states and being hostile toward Commissioner Hogue?
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  • Jun/10/24 3:45:48 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, we are having a hard time understanding why such a combative tone is being used on an issue that should not be partisan. The member knows full well, as the minister just reminded us, that the government is sworn to secrecy, that this information is one of Canada's most important secrets and that we could be criminally prosecuted if we disclosed such information. That is not something we are going to do. I am having a hard time understanding why the member opposite is adopting such a partisan and combative tone. We will obviously rely on the laws that are in place.
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  • Jun/10/24 3:46:34 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, this morning, Le Journal de Montréal painted a bleak picture of the job market. According to Statistics Canada, the number of unemployed workers in Quebec jumped by 58,000 in one year. We are talking about thousands of full-time jobs. This is very bad news, because the federal government continues to neglect the unemployed. At a time when the job market is showing signs of distress, six out of 10 workers still do not qualify for employment insurance. The Liberals have been promising reform since 2015. It has been nine years. What are they waiting for?
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  • Jun/10/24 3:47:26 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I thank the member for her question. Let me begin by saying that we understand the difficulties that Canadians and Quebeckers are going through. That is why we are very pleased with the good news that we all heard last week about the Bank of Canada's decision to lower interest rates. The bank was able to do this thanks in part to our responsible fiscal policy, which has allowed inflation to fall.
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  • Jun/10/24 3:48:11 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, now is the time to protect workers. Why do the Liberals always wait until there is a disaster before they take action? There needs to be a single eligibility threshold of 420 hours with the maximum amount of benefits. It is time to permanently end the EI spring gap. It is time to undo the discrimination against women who lose their job while they are on parental leave. The Liberals can no longer condone a system that leaves six out of 10 workers out in the cold. When will EI be reformed?
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  • Jun/10/24 3:48:53 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, my colleague criticizes me a lot on this issue. Let me assure the House that we have already made changes to the EI system. We extended sickness benefits to 26 weeks. We extended the additional support for seasonal workers by five weeks until October 2024. The member and I have had a conversation about this. We will sit down together again. As the Deputy Prime Minister said, interest rates are falling here in Canada, and we will be there for unemployed workers from coast to coast to coast.
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  • Jun/10/24 3:49:31 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, explosive revelations from Global News highlight the ethical concerns surrounding the NDP-Liberal government. Text messages implicate a Randy in shady business dealings from a company that the employment minister has a 50% interest in. The mysterious Randy was requesting an immediate half-million dollar wire transfer. This occurred nearly a year after the employment minister's cabinet appointment. The minister claims it is not him. Then who is it?
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  • Jun/10/24 3:50:03 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, as the member across knows full well, ministers are expected to comply with what are among the most stringent conflict of interest and ethics provisions in the world. The minister has responded to all of the questions, and that member knows that full well.
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  • Jun/10/24 3:50:25 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I get that transparency is an elusive concept for the government, but it is in the minister's best interest to get to the bottom of this to clear his name. So far, his committee interventions have shown an evasiveness and a laissez-faire attitude toward this serious situation. Perhaps ethical breaches are so old hat for this Liberal Party that the minister does not see this as a big deal. Canadians, however, disagree. When will the minister take his scandal seriously and tell us who the real Randy is?
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  • Jun/10/24 3:51:01 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, as my colleague across the aisle just pointed out, the minister spent an hour in committee answering questions from all sides of this House. The minister has filed the requisite disclosures under the very stringent conflict and ethics provisions. Those measures are available to the hon. colleague for consultation, and I would say that the minister has complied with all of those measures.
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  • Jun/10/24 3:51:31 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the government House leader and the Minister of Employment are not fooling anyone. The company at the centre of this scandal admits there is this other Randy, but at the same time, they claim to have forgotten what his last name is. In all of Alberta, there are only 630 Randys, so what are the odds that two of them are going to be working in the same tiny company at the same time and that no one knows who this other Randy is? Will the minister just come clean and tell the House who the other Randy is?
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  • Jun/10/24 3:52:11 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, for the third time, the minister is subject to this government's conflict of interest and ethics provisions, which are among the most stringent in the world, and he has answered all of these questions.
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  • Jun/10/24 3:52:36 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, Canada is facing an existential crisis due to climate change. Older generations are asking what we can do to preserve and maintain prosperity for the next generation, while young people everywhere are worried about their own future. Can the Minister for Innovation, Science and Industry update the House on the government's plans for harnessing the technology sector in order to create the jobs of tomorrow and fight climate change effectively?
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