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House Hansard - 330

44th Parl. 1st Sess.
June 12, 2024 02:00PM
Context: House Hansard - 330 - Jun/12/24
Hon. Pablo Rodriguez (Minister of Transport, Lib.)
  • Jun/12/24 3:05:14 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, Canada is a secular country, a secular society. No form of hate speech will be accepted or tolerated. We have always fought against it and that is precisely why we introduced a bill to combat online hate, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia and all forms of discrimination because hate, whether online or in the street, hurts individuals and society. I hope that the Bloc Québécois will vote with the government.
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Hon. Pierre Poilievre (Leader of the Opposition, CPC)
  • Jun/12/24 3:05:48 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, the minister proposes this new tax increase on every single dollar that a fisherman earns inside of his small business. There is no $250,000 exemption for him. Even if he just earns $1,000, he will have to pay the tax increase. We forget that it is not just our wonderful farmers who feed us, but also our fishermen. Will the finance minister amend her bill to ensure that there will not be a single fish harvester anywhere in Canada who will face a tax increase?
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Hon. Steven MacKinnon (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.)
  • Jun/12/24 3:06:27 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I grew up in Atlantic Canada. I grew up as the grandson of two dairy farmers. I grew up around an awful lot of fishers. I grew up around people who worked with their hands and did not think that electricians got electricity from the sky, but rather by plugging into the wall. What I would like to challenge the leader to do is this. He should gather all of the electricians who think they should not pay for capital gains of over $250,000, and I will get together all the electricians who think that a buck is a buck is a buck, and we will compare—
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Jun/12/24 3:07:07 p.m.
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The hon. leader of the official opposition.
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Hon. Pierre Poilievre (Leader of the Opposition, CPC)
  • Jun/12/24 3:07:11 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, will the Liberals exempt electricians from this tax hike?
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, Lib.)
  • Jun/12/24 3:07:17 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, for the past couple of years, the Conservative leader has been cosplaying as a friend of union workers, but yesterday we called his bluff, and Conservatives know it. Here is what the president of the CLC said: “With this vote [the Conservative leader] has shown that he believes that an ordinary worker flipping burgers for a living should be taxed on 100% of their income while his CEO friends making millions of dollars from flipping stocks should be taxed only on half of that income”. That is what the Conservatives believe, and it is shameful.
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Hon. Pierre Poilievre (Leader of the Opposition, CPC)
  • Jun/12/24 3:07:58 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, there are many union workers who have rental properties that they invest in. Will the minister make the commitment that no union worker will have to pay this tax increase?
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Hon. Steven MacKinnon (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons, Lib.)
  • Jun/12/24 3:08:13 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I do not know which union workers the member has been talking to, but the union workers I talk to, those we talk to and have dialogue with, and whom the finance minister just quoted, are people who believe in solidarity, who believe in caring for others, who believe in dental plans, child care, the Canada child benefit and every other single thing that the leader has voted against, the very things that this fairness tax measure will pay for. Therefore, yes, we accept the leader's challenge. Let us talk to union members and see what side of the equation they come down on.
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Mr. Sean Casey (Charlottetown, Lib.)
  • Jun/12/24 3:08:56 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, every Canadian deserves a safe and affordable place to call home. We know that people in vulnerable situations struggle to find affordable housing that meets their needs. We need to build more homes and make the housing market fairer for everyone. Can the Minister of Veterans Affairs tell us what the government is doing to ensure that Canadians can access safe, affordable housing?
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Hon. Ginette Petitpas Taylor (Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defence, Lib.)
  • Jun/12/24 3:09:34 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I thank my friend and colleague for his important question. Our government is working hard to get more affordable housing built. This year, I had the privilege of announcing $6.7 million in funding to build more housing in my beautiful riding of Moncton—Riverview—Dieppe. This funding will help people experiencing homelessness as well as women and children fleeing domestic violence to have access to housing. Our government will always be there to support Canadians.
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Hon. Pierre Poilievre (Leader of the Opposition, CPC)
  • Jun/12/24 3:10:04 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, would the minister accept an amendment to her proposed tax hike to exempt carpenters, plumbers, electricians and farmers, yes or no?
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Hon. François-Philippe Champagne (Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry, Lib.)
  • Jun/12/24 3:10:29 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, what I can say is that fairness is at the core of who we are as Canadians. The people of Shawinigan, like the people of Ottawa and Carleton, understand that equity is fundamental in a fair and equitable society. That is why we made it the basis of what we presented in the last federal budget. That is why the changes to capital gains will allow us to reinvest in the economy, reinvest in our workers and reinvest in housing. Lo and behold, the Conservatives are against tax fairness. Who would have thought it? They are against tax fairness. On this side of the House, we will always side with workers, we will always side with the middle class, and we will always side with Canadians.
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Hon. Pierre Poilievre (Leader of the Opposition, CPC)
  • Jun/12/24 3:11:12 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, using Statistics Canada data, Dr. Jack Mintz calculated that 50% of those who will pay this tax increase earn less than $120,000 a year and that 10% earn less than $18,000 a year. We do not have to dispute these numbers. Why do we not just make it simple and make it clear? Will the minister accept an amendment to exempt anyone who earns less than $120,000 a year from this tax increase, yes or no?
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, Lib.)
  • Jun/12/24 3:11:46 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, actually, there is a $250,000 threshold, so the new rate kicks in only after one has made $250,000 in capital gains in a given year. I do want to continue to help educate the Conservative leader. I am going to point him to— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Jun/12/24 3:12:13 p.m.
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I cannot hear any of that, so I am going to allow the Deputy Prime Minister to restart. The hon. Deputy Prime Minister.
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland
  • Jun/12/24 3:12:20 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I am grateful, because it does seem that the Conservative leader, who for baffling reasons wants to take all the questions, maybe to show off his ignorance, does not actually understand— Some hon. members: Oh, oh!
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The Deputy Speaker
  • Jun/12/24 3:12:34 p.m.
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I would ask the hon. Deputy Prime Minister to retract that and finish. I gave enough grace to allow her to repeat. The hon. Deputy Prime Minister.
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland
  • Jun/12/24 3:12:45 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I am sorry. I retract that. Let me just say that it was baffling to me that the Conservative leader is taking all the questions to show that he does not really understand what we are doing, but it gives me a chance to explain it to him. It only kicks in after $250,000 of capital gains, this new level.
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Hon. Pierre Poilievre (Leader of the Opposition, CPC)
  • Jun/12/24 3:13:13 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, I just gave that minister more than 20 opportunities to prove that what she was saying was true. I asked her, and she refused, if she would give an exemption to her tax hike to carpenters, farmers, fishermen, plumbers, union workers, restaurant owners and electricians. She said no. She said no to exempting people who earn less than $120,000 a year. Why? It is because we know that that is exactly who she is going after. She is going to rob the people who pay the bills in this country, to pay for her obese and out-of-control spending. Why will she not finally end the rip-off?
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Hon. Chrystia Freeland (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, Lib.)
  • Jun/12/24 3:14:01 p.m.
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Mr. Speaker, yesterday, our government gave every single Conservative MP a chance to stand on the side of working people, of teachers, of nurses, of electricians, of carpenters and of welders. They cannot wiggle out of the shocking position they took. They took a position on the side of multi-millionaires, against working people and against fairness. Now, all Canadians know where they stand.
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