Thank you. The member from Kingston and the Islands.

Great member.

Either member could answer this question. I just want to go back a little bit. When the Liberal party was in charge of the government, back in the majority days, Premier Kathleen Wynne’s government was trying to extricate itself from one privatization disaster, even as it sets itself up for another. That’s the Ornge one that they’re referring to. The current disaster of its handling of surgical clinics—Ontarians may recall the government’s decision to expand the scope of private clinics, announced with much fanfare by then health minister Deb Matthews in 2012.

I just need to ask the members a question: Do they support privatization of health care expansion or not?

I appreciate the revised history lesson from our new Liberal colleagues. I can appreciate that they weren’t elected during the 15 years when Liberal governments fired nurses and closed down hospitals, including the Peel Memorial Hospital, which is actually the hospital I was born in, in Brampton—and, actually, I guess the other previous Liberal members in the previous government also voted against rebuilding that hospital in Brampton, to get a second hospital at the site of Peel Memorial. So I can appreciate that these members might—

When we talk about corporate profiteering and privatization—

Questions?

A quick response.

To the member from Don Valley East—interesting presentation, isn’t it? Fifteen years to get absolutely nothing—absolutely nothing.

One of the aspects of our plan supports expanding the number of physicians that can join a family health team. I’m from a region that has a million people. The people that I represent, 149,000 people—this is something they want, this is something I hear at the doors that I knock on, every other weekend.

Can the member for Don Valley East tell me whether he supports increasing access to family health teams?

My question is to the doctor. He said the Ontario Hospital Association has said very clearly to this government that Bill 124 shouldn’t be extended. I think that’s pretty clear.

What I’ve never understood is why a labour minister on that side of the House, who is supposed to be non-partisan, is supporting and continues to support Bill 124. I hope he hears me; I don’t know if he can hear me or not, but I hope he does.

You also said that performance is better in not-for-profit compared to profit. When I look at long-term care, because I’m the critic, 5,400 people died in long-term care; approximately 3,800 of them died in private long-term care.

My question to you is, do you agree that everything should stay not-for-profit?

I would like to pick up on your information—I thought it was very interesting—about how the director is being appointed and why that difference is there. I would refer back to the Auditor General’s value-for-money audit, and I’m going to quote from that report. She said, “We found that some patients could be given misleading information as part of sales practices to make a profit.

“Several of our findings, such as the underuse of hospital operating rooms, and the lack of ministry oversight ... have been noted in our past value-for-money audits.”

So the Auditor General has identified the lack of oversight, has identified that profiteering is a problem. I would give you an opportunity to comment on it. We haven’t even addressed the Auditor General’s recommendations, and now they’re doubling down on the lack of oversight and profiteering.

I find it interesting hearing the Liberals. But I guess when the Liberals were in power, they didn’t have to worry about health care because they were just driving 300,000 families and businesses out of the province. They didn’t think we had people, because there really wasn’t any jobs for them, so they just assumed there would not be any people so we wouldn’t have to fix health care. But health care does need to be fixed. This government is the government that is fixing health care by looking outside the box and making sure this happens.

My question to the members opposite is: We launched the largest health care recruiting initiative in Ontario’s history; will the member opposite support the future of our publicly funded health care system by supporting this bill?